Would you hit a woman who was unarmed?

[Jimmythebull]

Ok we're talking about women on here but still...how much time do you have on the streets to figure out the scientific answer?
I'm thinking some of you've never been in any Situation that's dangerous otherwise you wouldn't write about scientific data. A normal day in London...

 

[Cynik75]

my experiences & so better than statistics in the internet.

My personal experience is different. Let me count... I was in 4 altercations with women (once with group of 5 or 6) and all of them were without any kind of weapon. I was in more than 50 street fights with men and more than half of them were armed with bats, bottles, chains, knuckledusters, belts or nighticks (but once police officer smashed my nose with bare hand ).
I was an punk rocker/ sharp skinhead/ antiifa guy in '90 in Poland.

 

[Jimmythebull]

My personal experience is different. Let me count... I was in 4 altercations with women (once with group of 5 or 6) and all of them were without any kind of weapon. I was in more than 50 street fights with men and more than half of them were armed with bats, bottles, chains, knuckledusters, belts or nighticks (but once police officer smashed my nose with bare hand ).
I was an punk rocker/ sharp skinhead/ antiifa guy in '90 in Poland.

Nastrovje!
It's the Vodka
Check out this guy. He's a champ..never spilt a drop

 

[Jimmythebull]

But on a serious note..drunk women are insane. They change from being a quite little mouse into a "raging tiger"

 

[Jimmythebull]

Check these girls out.

 

[Jimmythebull]

Woman attacks with a car bumper ..now that's original

 

[drop bear]

Well ...it's kept me alive until now.
You can think about your theories & scientific data as your skull is being stomped or gutted like a fish. Sorry but just nonsense

Everyone alive is alive until now. What kept them alive?

 

[Jimmythebull]

Everyone alive is alive until now. What kept them alive?

A lot of factors, Lifestyle, environment.

 

[drop bear]

A lot of factors, Lifestyle, environment.

So then how do you know your method is definitive?

 

[Jimmythebull]

So then how do you know your method is definitive?

You're confused.
I never mentioned once that it was my method.

 

[drop bear]

You're confused.
I never mentioned once that it was my method.

my experiences & so better than statistics in the internet.

How do you know your experiences are definitive?

 

[Jimmythebull]

How do you know your experiences are definitive?

How long is a piece of string?

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Ok we're talking about women on here but still...how much time do you have on the streets to figure out the scientific answer?
I'm thinking some of you've never been in any Situation that's dangerous otherwise you wouldn't write about scientific data. A normal day in London...

I think you entirely misunderstand how data should be used. You don't stop in the moment and analyze some stats to figure out your next move (which is the strawman you present in this and another post).

You use the data to determine what your training should look like, and what habits to work on building. Relying on personal experience only for that means you are never prepared for anything you haven't yet experienced.

 

[Jimmythebull]

You use the data to determine what your training should look like, and what habits to work on building. Relying on personal experience only for that means you are never prepared for anything you haven't yet experienced.

OK Gerry can you now tell me what will happen in your next street fight? will you know what to prepare for?
To quote an expression used in the British army , "always expect the unexpected"
personal experienes teach you how to overcome a situation. If i punch you on the nose will you let me do it again? no you´ll have the experience of pain & so you will move your *** & defend yourself.
all this theory is fine but real life action is better.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

OK Gerry can you now tell me what will happen in your next street fight? will you know what to prepare for?
To quote an expression used in the British army , "always expect the unexpected"
personal experienes teach you how to overcome a situation. If i punch you on the nose will you let me do it again? no you´ll have the experience of pain & so you will move your *** & defend yourself.
all this theory is fine but real life action is better.

Again, you're presenting a strawman. Nobody has claimed you can guess what will happen in the next fight. But you can find out to some extent what is likely in general, and what is not.

As for the unexpected, that's basic problem solving in your trainng. And if you don't expect it, it's not predicted by your personal experience, either, is it?

 

[Jimmythebull]

Again, you're presenting a strawman. Nobody has claimed you can guess what will happen in the next fight. But you can find out to some extent what is likely in general, and what is not.

As for the unexpected, that's basic problem solving in your trainng. And if you don't expect it, it's not predicted by your personal experience, either, is it?

OK Gerry how many real fights have you had in your life? not talking bally dancing in a dojo but a serious punch up outside. I am willing to bet zero. I am not being insulting before you jump on your mod button but it´s my opinion. I can pretty much tell by peoples posts if they know or not.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

OK Gerry how many real fights have you had in your life? not talking bally dancing in a dojo but a serious punch up outside. I am willing to bet zero. I am not being insulting before you jump on your mod button but it´s my opinion. I can pretty much tell by peoples posts if they know or not.

Think what you like.

I've managed to avoid most of them in my adult life, even when working the door at a bar and security at a courthouse. I didn't avoid so well in my teens.

EDIT: I'll also point out you're now trying to make this about my experience, rather than ther topic. The point you're arguing against was brought up by someone with far more "real life" experience than I'll ever have. And you dismissed it from him, too.

 

[Jimmythebull]

Think what you like.

I will & do but please don´t throw your teddy in the corner.
I served 9 years in the army & 7 years armed security for the army . I am not some Geek who sits playing games Gerry. I´ve never said i know better but from my experiences i disagree with your theory stuff. you put too much weight on it.

 

[OLD DOG NEW TRICKS]

Wow, tough question. I would try my best to walk away fast. If I couldn't walk I would deflect her strikes without striking her if possible. If she was on me like a monkey on a cupcake I would use a wrist lock or similar hold to stop her until I could walk away fast. The circumstances are such it is impossible to predict. Walk away fast is my best answer, before you have witnesses.

 

[drop bear]

OK Gerry how many real fights have you had in your life? not talking bally dancing in a dojo but a serious punch up outside. I am willing to bet zero. I am not being insulting before you jump on your mod button but it´s my opinion. I can pretty much tell by peoples posts if they know or not.

No you can't.

Which is the point of personal experience.