Would you hit a woman who was unarmed?

[gerardfoy50]

I don't believe so. If you're consciously thinking during a fight, you're not fighting at your best.

Exactly, that’s why training in a realistic way like MMA, boxing, wrestling where you go full out with the same techniques you use for a real fight gives an advantage, it’s been true throughout history, Roman legionaries we’re successful cause they trained hard using the same techniques as they did in battle because in a real fight, adrenaline messes your thought process and training is what kicks in

 

[Dirty Dog]

I think part of the problem is that men, especially gentlemen automatically view women as less of a threat in any given circumstance then men.

This statement is incorrect. Allow me to fix it for you.

I think part of the problem is that fools, especially exceptionally foolish men, automatically view women as less of a threat in any given circumstance then [sic] men.

My friend had a very small fat woman in her 40s start on him. He was relaxed, then she picked up a stone and threw it at his leg, he did nothing next stone hit his back, then she picked a good sized one and aimed right at his head. He spun her round and put her in a rear naked cans told her to drop it which she did, soon as he let go she stuck her car keys in his head. How do you think that situation would have played out if the aggressor was a guy.

I think your friend is a foolish man. Gender is irrelevant.

 

[Alan0354]

What part of 'it depends on the circumstances' is unclear?

What part of 'it depends on the circumstances' is unclear?

There are lots of options. I get that you don't understand them all, but others do. That might be related to the fact that you don't really have any training or experience.

Which part of she start swinging at you that you don't understand? Circumstances is she is SWINGING at you.

 

[Dirty Dog]

Which part of she start swinging at you that you don't understand? Circumstances is she is SWINGING at you.

Is your world really that simplistic? Not all swings are the same. Some pose a major threat. Some do not. In some cases I would strike. In some I would grapple. In some I would walk away. In some I would draw my weapon and fire. This is by no means a complete list of my options.

 

[Alan0354]

Is your world really that simplistic? Not all swings are the same. Some pose a major threat. Some do not. In some cases I would strike. In some I would grapple. In some I would walk away. In some I would draw my weapon and fire. This is by no means a complete list of my options.

The original question is simplistic also, you just take it as face value. If a woman swing at you, what would you do. The way you look at it, everything has too many options. What is the point of covering everything?

 

[gerardfoy50]

This statement is incorrect. Allow me to fix it for you.

I think part of the problem is that fools, especially exceptionally foolish men, automatically view women as less of a threat in any given circumstance then [sic] men.

I think your friend is a foolish man. Gender is irrelevant.

Part of the problem is that men are socialised in a certain way, we have to treat women in a certain way and part of this is that it is taboo to hit a woman, generally this is a good thing but it all to often results in men being shocked into inaction and confused when attacked by a woman, this is because women traditionally also believed and behaved as people who would not use violence, problem is that times have changed and many not all women have a different attitude, because it’s only a minority of women who do this it’s still always a surprise when it happens

 

[Jared Traveler]

I don't believe so. If you're consciously thinking during a fight, you're not fighting at your best.

There is a difference between not think, verse allowing your body to respond, with a conscious awareness that you can stop what you are doing at any moment.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Would you hit a woman who was unarmed but attacking you?

hmmm. The question is. Why wouldn't I hit someone who was attacking me? I'm a mobile 200lbs. I figure that if anyone attacks me, then it's because they think they can win or harm me. If they think that, then I better take that person as a serious danger and risk to my safety

Danger is Danger no matter what shape or form it takes. Do you ask the same question about a female lion or a female tiger? Humans are more dangerous than a lion or a tiger, so this type of question has always been strange to me.

 

[JowGaWolf]

I would apply the same test for hitting a woman who was attacking me as I would for a man: Is this individual presenting a significant danger to me that I can't safely handle with a lower level of force?

Now, statistically speaking, there are fewer women than men who would present such a danger. Women, on average, are smaller, physically weaker, and less likely to have significant fighting experience than men. I'm a 6'4", 200 lb man with 41 years of martial arts training and a black belt in BJJ. Against the majority of women out there, if they attacked me unarmed, I could safely defend myself by deflecting their attacks, restraining them, or just letting them hurt themselves on my blocks. (The same would go for a much smaller, weaker, and untrained man.)

But real world attacks come from individuals, not statistical averages. There are women out there who could hurt me badly if I didn't take them every bit as seriously as a male attacker. If I were ever attacked by such a woman I would treat them just the same as a man who posed a real threat to me - which might include hitting them.

I should have read this first before I posted. Then I could have just made a short post, stating that it's not who is attacking but the danger that person presents.

For me there are basically 2 types of conclusions attackers have
1. The attacker who think they can beat me.
2. The attacker who thinks I won't fight back.

#1 is tricky because a person who thinks they can beat me doesn't have to be stronger than me. A weaker person with a weapon could think the same thing as a stronger person without a weapon. The way that I've been able to avoid fights is to keep people from coming to Conclusion #1 or Conclusion #2.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Are you assuming only men post on here?

ha ha ha.. someone woke up the tiger

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Would you hit a woman who was unarmed but attacking you?

No! I'll play defense and I won't hit back.

 

[JowGaWolf]

No! I'll play defense and I won't hit back.

ha ha ha.. you just haven't met the right woman. There are some women who will break your defenses and make you take a nap.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

ha ha ha.. you just haven't met the right woman. There are some women who will break your defenses and make you take a nap.

That just mean my defense skill is not good enough. I'll need more defense skill training.

I may play offense against man. But I don't mind to play defense against woman.

 

[JowGaWolf]

She may be unarmed, but a threat is a threat. It also depends on the situation and how sudden it happens.

yep. No one asks if an attacking tiger is male or female. A threat is a treat.

 

[Jared Traveler]

yep. No one asks if an attacking tiger is male or female. A threat is a treat.

Certainly every TV show that has been produced in the last 5 years would lead you to believe this is true.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Certainly every TV show that has been produced in the last 5 years would lead you to believe this is true.

Nope, it has nothing to do with TV shows. A threat is a treat. If a female attacker was wearing all black with a black mask and sucker punched you, then your first thought is going to be "Is my attacker male, female, or transgender." because that's always the first thing that goes through your mind when you get attacked.

 

[Jared Traveler]

Nope, it has nothing to do with TV shows. A threat is a treat. If a female attacker was wearing all black with a black mask and sucker punched you, then your first thought is going to be "Is my attacker male, female, or transgender." because that's always the first thing that goes through your mind when you get attacked.

First of all I'm not ticklish. And if she is wearing a mask, it's probably Halloween and I will be handing out candy, not getting punched by her. But if somehow I'm in another riot or something and a woman conceals her identity, and I'm not sure if it's a female, then I guess that is on her and not me. But for most situations, shame on me for letting a masked person get close enough to strike me in the first place.

 

[Tony Dismukes]

ha ha ha.. you just haven't met the right woman. There are some women who will break your defenses and make you take a nap.

If Gabi Garcia ever comes after me, I’m just going to be trying to survive by whatever means necessary. She’s bigger than I am, stronger than I am, and is also a BJJ black belt.

 

[gerardfoy50]

That just mean my defense skill is not good enough. I'll need more defense skill training.

I may play offense against man. But I don't mind to play defense against woman.

Brother it’s not only women’s attitudes that have changed, my kids judo coach is a woman my daughter can beat any boy in her tkd class who’s same age as her, their are hundreds of thousands of women in all types of martial arts classes all over the world learning how to kick ***, the games changed. Change with it or get a nasty surprise.

 

[JowGaWolf]

But for most situations, shame on me for letting a masked person get close enough to strike me in the first place.

Unmasked people get close to you all the time. They just choose not to attack you which is good considering that there's nothing to stop them from attacking you other than their personality and moral values.