JohnnyEnglish
Green Belt
If I am fighting 4 or more men, there only exists the will to survive. If running is not an option available, but soccer kicking a downed opponents in the temple for a KO, increases my survival likely hood, guess who is going night-night?
Your desire to be a gentlemen while fighting is interesting. Taken to its final and logical conclusion...war has no morality. Kill or be killed.
Maiming and subdual maybe be preferably to killing, with regard to legal ramifications.
My concern, when society fails, when SHTF, and civil unrest becomes criminal anarchy or civil war...
And you are trapped in a situation where you have to fight for your life....
How will your "morality" affect your training methods?
If You train with values that undermine your fighting ability, dont be surprised that your art will not serve you well in the real world test.
Any fight avoided is a win.
Any fight lost, that was in a "just cause", and that you live through is a win.
Any fight in which you die, but your actions gave time for others to successfully flee and live, is a win.
Any fight, that gets you killed, for an unjust cause, Is a loss.
Any fight that you survive, but does not make you improve, is a loss.
Looks like you have a massive issue to understand that competitions are not a self-defense situation. I've already been saying that I don't like kicking people on the ground in general, but would do so if the self-defense situation is very serious and also, I doubt you have the time to hit or kick somebody on the ground while being attacked by 4 people. You know, it's not like in a hollywood movie where they wait and attack you one after an other. They all will have a go at you, at the same time !!
Please do your reading more focused before you claim this type of stuff. I might have morality, and I am a gentleman when it comes to competitions and also to SD situations, but I also know when I have to fight " dirty ", and when as you claim, there are more than one people attacking me, + maybe have the motivation to kill me, I for sure will do everything to get them out the way, if this includes kicking somebody on the ground so he can't stand up, pull his knife and run after me, I'll do so !
I also feel highly insulted by your little list you wrote down there, I am not a 13 years old child which believes Karate tiger 3 is real. I am a clean and good citizen of a European country, I know very well what and how to avoid things and when and how to react.
PS: If you seriously believe in kicking somebody on the ground will bring you further, you are wrong. Every decent judge will send you to jail for non-necessary force against an attacker, at least here in the UK. In the most cases you even have to demonstrate exactly what you've done, and it does not seem good if you kick after somebody already on the ground. Trust me.
I don't know WHO you are and I don't know WHERE you live and I also don't know what your status/position in any martial art is, but this is a thing every student has to learn the first day. Only use as much force as necessary, and kicking somebody is NOT a necessary, NOT in the most self-defense cases.