What do you think?

[jetboatdeath]

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

This will more than likely stir up the pot and get me called racist by everyone on the board. But this is the church of a certain Democrat presidential candidate. Do you think if this was for a republican candidate we would here more about it? Or if it was just a white church posting for commitment to the white family would we call it the church full of clan members? Or don’t you see a problem with it at all?

 

[Cryozombie]

Is that Barak Obama's Church?
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[jetboatdeath]

Yes it is. But I didn't say it.

 

[Cryozombie]

Hmm. Well, setting that aside, (I think Barak Obama has potential as a strong candidate, despite his lack of experience) I don't see the attitude of this church as being so different than B.E.T. or other examples of Black Segregation imposed on the black community by themselves... I'd say its their perogative... they fought hard to end segregation, if they then choose to try and elevate their positions by segregating themselves in the name of racial pride, it's their decision to make. And whether it strengthens them or is their downfall, it was their choice this time, as opposed to one forced on them by someone elses ignorance.

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[zDom]

There does seem to be a double standard.

I wonder how an organization called

"The National Association for the Advancement of White People" or even

"The National Association for the Continued Cultural Dominance of White People"

would go over ...

 

[Phoenix44]

I don't really see anything racist about it. It encourages pride in oneself and betterment.

 

[rutherford]

There does seem to be a double standard.

I wonder how an organization called

"The National Association for the Advancement of White People" . . .

[ editor snip ]

would go over ...

But replace the words "White People" with "Irish Americans" or "Italian Americans" and I think you'll find an altogether different connotation.

 

[bushidomartialarts]

ruthorford has a good point. there are lots of little organizations and clubs around to celebrate the irish in you, or the swedish, etc.

nothing wrong with this. the discomfort many have stems from the connotations on 'white power' or 'white advancement' which (whether or not still true) mean to most people burning crosses, sheets and lynchings.

so, although i see what you're getting at, the problem isn't black folks celebrating their heritage and unity. the problem is that, because of the actions of a bunch of jackholes some time back, white folks need to be careful how we label our celbrations of heritage.

this too shall pass.

 

[rutherford]

That, and I don't know that you can make much of a case for a shared heritage or cultural experience for "white people".

 

[Steel Tiger]

What I found saddest, and most confusing, is the contined commitment to the continent of Africa. What does this mean? I can see a confusion between acknowledging and being proud of one's heritage and a commitment to a continent. Are they committed to an ultimate return to the lands of their ancestors, to improving Africa financially and socially, or making it the happiest place on Earth. I don't know and cannot tell. My own heritage is English and Irish but I do not have a continuing commitment to the British Isles.

 

[jetboatdeath]

What I found saddest, and most confusing, is the contined commitment to the continent of Africa. What does this mean? I can see a confusion between acknowledging and being proud of one's heritage and a commitment to a continent. Are they committed to an ultimate return to the lands of their ancestors, to improving Africa financially and socially, or making it the happiest place on Earth. I don't know and cannot tell. My own heritage is English and Irish but I do not have a continuing commitment to the British Isles.

English and Irish?
Wow do you set bombs for yourself?

Thank you try the prime rib i will be here all week........

 

[gardawamtu]

What I found saddest, and most confusing, is the contined commitment to the continent of Africa. What does this mean? I can see a confusion between acknowledging and being proud of one's heritage and a commitment to a continent. Are they committed to an ultimate return to the lands of their ancestors, to improving Africa financially and socially, or making it the happiest place on Earth. I don't know and cannot tell. My own heritage is English and Irish but I do not have a continuing commitment to the British Isles.

It doesn't sound to me like they are part of a "back to Africa" movement or migration. I think this statement vocalizes a commitment to financial and other aid to fight poverty, HIV, other disease, etc. in Africa in a spirit of kinship. No offense, but it does not seem to me that the British Isles are suffering quite as much as war-torn nations in Africa with such social ills (the conflict between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland not withstanding). Then again, Bono (another Irishman) has basically the same commitment to Africa.

 

[gardawamtu]

English and Irish?
Wow do you set bombs for yourself?

Thank you try the prime rib i will be here all week........

:roflmao:

 

[Steel Tiger]

It doesn't sound to me like they are part of a "back to Africa" movement or migration. I think this statement vocalizes a commitment to financial and other aid to fight poverty, HIV, other disease, etc. in Africa in a spirit of kinship. No offense, but it does not seem to me that the British Isles are suffering quite as much as war-torn nations in Africa with such social ills (the conflict between Protestants and Catholics in Ireland not withstanding). Then again, Bono (another Irishman) has basically the same commitment to Africa.

Yes I can see your point. I think on re-reading my post I was not as clear as I had intended to be. The church is an American organisation made up of Americans with an African heritage but nowhere do they talk of a commitment to the United States.

I may have Irish (mum's side) and English (dad's) ancestry but my commitment is to Australia. Afterall, I am an Australian not an Irish-Australian or an English-Australian.

 

[RED]

http://www.tucc.org/about.htm

This will more than likely stir up the pot and get me called racist by everyone on the board. But this is the church of a certain Democrat presidential candidate. Do you think if this was for a republican candidate we would here more about it? Or if it was just a white church posting for commitment to the white family would we call it the church full of clan members? Or don’t you see a problem with it at all?

Atleast he goes to church. Sundays seem to be the most racest day of the week. I have friends of many ethnic back grounds and we go to bars together, hang out, ect. but we go our different ways on Sunday. I'm neither suprized or bothered by this. People are people. Ever hear of David Duke's "NO FEAR" or "ERO" google it the white NAACP.