Morgan Freeman calls Herman Cain a racist

[Steve]

Don't worry either Steve Bjj. I don't think that all democrats supported the slavery, jim crow laws and civil rights abuses of the democrat parties history or it's current soft racism of denying African american citizens the chance of a good education by keeping them trapped in horrible inner city schools. And I don't believe that all democrats were members of the Ku Klux Klan either. It is interesting to note, the democrat group, the Ku Klux Klan, the real racist group, had and has no African American members, (except for Dave Chapelle's one character) but the tea party is full of African Americans....Hmmm...which political party has more of a history of racism at all levels...?

I'm glad. But for some reason, you dont sound sincere.

 

[billc]

Morgan Freeman is evidence that the smear machine of the democrats and their strategy, which was documented during the healthcare debate to smear the opponents of healthcare as racists to keep them too busy defending themselves, has moved onto the tea party and is permeating the easily duped, like hollywood actors, and Bill Maher.

If I take myself and two kids to the movie, that puts more money into the pockets of guys like Morgan freeman who will support people like obama. That would be one reason to stay home. Another reason, Morgan Freeman smeared me and the tea party, most importantly me. Let's pretend you are an african american, or if you are an african american, just be yourself. You go into a store and as you walk through the aisles the owner calls you the "N" word. Would you then go and spend 40 bucks or more in that guys store?

 

[hongkongfooey]

Morgan Freeman is evidence that the smear machine of the democrats and their strategy, which was documented during the healthcare debate to smear the opponents of healthcare as racists to keep them too busy defending themselves, has moved onto the tea party and is permeating the easily duped, like hollywood actors, and Bill Maher.

If I take myself and two kids to the movie, that puts more money into the pockets of guys like Morgan freeman who will support people like obama. That would be one reason to stay home. Another reason, Morgan Freeman smeared me and the tea party, most importantly me. Let's pretend you are an african american, or if you are an african american, just be yourself. You go into a store and as you walk through the aisles the owner calls you the "N" word. Would you then go and spend 40 bucks or more in that guys store?

Bill you take the musings of actors and politicians to heart too much. Why do you let this kind of thing get you so worked up? Actors pretend to be someone else for a living and politicians lie for a living. Everything that comes out of their mouths should be taken with a huge helping of salt. The democrat, republican, and tea party candidates are all in it for themselves only. They only want your vote and once they have it, you will be tossed to the side until next election cycle.

 

[elder999]

In this little video clip Morgan freeman calls the tea partymembers racists because they want to kick obama out after only one term. He says it is because he is a black guy. Well, as a tea party supporter myself, I will speak for the tea partiers and say that it is Obamas policies on healthcare, taxes, spending, corruption, immigration and foreign policy that makes me and them want him to only serve one term. His race has nothing to do with it. Someone might want to tell Morgan freeman that one of the favorite candidates of the tea party is Herman Cain, a black guy, and the tea party would gladly put Herman Cain into office within minutes of Obama vacating that office, if not seconds...I also think that Herman cain is a member of the tea party and so...Morgan Freeman is calling him a racist.

http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/hollywoodland/2011/09/23/morgan-freeman-calls-tea-party-racist/

Herman Cain and the tea party:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...esidential-live-straw-poll-at-phoenix-summit/

Morgan freeman might want to discuss racism and the democrat party with Alfonso Rachel, another tea party member...

1) He called the "Tea Party" racist, not "Herman Cain."

2) If he had, are you implying then that blacks cannot be racist? Or that blacks cannot be racist against their own "race?" Because you'd be wrong.

3) Continuing with the black racist theme, are you implying that because there are black people who call themselves "Tea Party" members, the Tea Party itself cannot be racist? Or are you implying that because they don't exclude black people, none of their membership can be racist?

Whatever your position on items #2&3, please note the inherent racism implied in taking any position on them, or even bringing it up. (Please also take note of how firmly my tongue is inserted in my cheek...:lfao: )

Note: if you need to keep bringing up how many "black friends" you have, you just might be a racist. :lfao:

Not tongue in cheek at all, there, really-I mean it. Oh, I can't be racist; I have sooo many "black friends." Just what your posts of "black tea partyers" remind me of. Sorry.

No, I'm not "sorry" at all.....:lfao:

Oh, and does anyone really care what an actor/former Air Force Mechanic/former drug addict has to say? Except, of course, that he can say it with such gravitas?:lfao:

 

[billc]

Herman Cain, winner of the Florida straw poll, responds to Morgan Freeman...

http://www.breitbart.tv/florida-straw-poll-winner-herman-cain-calls-out-morgan-freeman-over-tea-party-racism-charge/

And here is an article on Cains win of the florida straw poll:

http://pajamasmedia.com/tatler/2011/09/25/for-tea-party-followers-cain-win-is-hardly-a-surprise/

This observation is illustrated in Mr. Cain’s continually strong Gallup positive intensity scores. The [URL="http://www.gallup.com/poll/election.aspx"]latest measure

shows Mr. Cain tied with Texas Governor Rick Perry at the top of the heap. The reason Mr. Cain is doing well right now is because his message is one that is resonating with voters. He has one intangible quality that many of the Republican candidates sorely lack: authenticity.

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[Carol]

Cain's got moxie.

At its core though, I agree with Mr. Freeman's criticism. I'm not a particular fan of the President, but if President Obama is truly this terrible, horrible, no good, very bad President then there's no reason or excuse for the racial commentary. Racial comments aren't the focus of tea-party gatherings that I have seen, but there doesn't see much effort to distance the on-topic messages from the personal attacks if/when they occur. I find it interesting that the local tea party groups were guaranteed the eyes of the President (he visited to speak at our high school), the signs were all on-topic and civil. Critical, but civil. There was no vitriol in the crowd, you had conservatives standing next to Obama supporters and everyone was peaceful. NH politics as its best...active, serious, but respectful. I'd open my door to just about any of those folks at any time.

But it seems to me that when a media audience isn't guaranteed, criticisms turn to personal attacks and outrageous statements, perhaps in the hopes for attention. No wants to distance themselves. They are too afraid to reduce their clout by having fewer bodies under their tent. A personal attack is OK as long as its the other side. If the barre to entry is that low, then that's not a group that I would stand with.

 

[billc]

More on Herman Cain:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20101494-503544.html

Republican presidential hopeful Herman Cain, the keynote speaker at the event, humorously batted back what he said were attempts to discredit the Tea Party movement and made frequent jabs at Washington in his remarks."You see, the liberals, the left, the Democrats, they have stooped to a new low," Cain said. "Trying to intimidate people into not coming out to rallies like this.""They call me racist - I haven't figured that one out yet," the African American business executive continued to titters. "Uncle Tom, sellout, Oreo, the list goes on.""How about Mr. President?" an audience member shouted.Cain grinned widely.The afternoon event had the feel of a county fair with a political twist. There were booths manned by Tea Party-affiliated groups, local Republican candidates and talk radio stations, vendors hawking Ronald Reagan buttons, booze flowing aplenty -- even a recitation of the Declaration of Independence by three children, the so-called "Trustees of Liberty."​

 

[Twin Fist]

Carol,
I have been to several tea party events, and there were no racist there, no signs with racial slogans, nothing refferencing the presidents race at all.

I dont know ANYONE that objects to the president because of his race, but everyone i know objects to his policies.

and i live in the supposed bastion of racial hatred, Texas.

this story is nothing but an attempt to smear people into silence by throwing the most powerful ridicule bomb they got, the race card

Cain's got moxie.

At its core though, I agree with Mr. Freeman's criticism. I'm not a particular fan of the President, but if President Obama is truly this terrible, horrible, no good, very bad President then there's no reason or excuse for the racial commentary. Racial comments aren't the focus of tea-party gatherings that I have seen, but there doesn't see much effort to distance the on-topic messages from the personal attacks if/when they occur. I find it interesting that the local tea party groups were guaranteed the eyes of the President (he visited to speak at our high school), the signs were all on-topic and civil. Critical, but civil. There was no vitriol in the crowd, you had conservatives standing next to Obama supporters and everyone was peaceful. NH politics as its best...active, serious, but respectful. I'd open my door to just about any of those folks at any time.

But it seems to me that when a media audience isn't guaranteed, criticisms turn to personal attacks and outrageous statements, perhaps in the hopes for attention. No wants to distance themselves. They are too afraid to reduce their clout by having fewer bodies under their tent. A personal attack is OK as long as its the other side. If the barre to entry is that low, then that's not a group that I would stand with.

 

[billc]

Great post twin fist, you are absolutely correct in your observation. It is the democrat strategy to smear the tea party as racists in order to keep them from effectively influencing the next election. It is a strategy that has worked on Morgan Freeman and several people here on the study. Calling normal americans "racist" is a cheap way to intimidate good people.

 

[Carol]

Carol,
I have been to several tea party events, and there were no racist there, no signs with racial slogans, nothing refferencing the presidents race at all.

I dont know ANYONE that objects to the president because of his race, but everyone i know objects to his policies.

and i live in the supposed bastion of racial hatred, Texas.

this story is nothing but an attempt to smear people into silence by throwing the most powerful ridicule bomb they got, the race card

Mmmm....yes, that's why 3 years were spent talking about where President Obama was born. That was a debate of which Obama policy exactly? The Maine Tea Party referring to a "Moochelle" bumper sticker? Ah, that was just a typo right? I mean, that couldn't have been a personal attack. And then there was the guy at the Concord tea party rally last summer, one Mr. Ryan Murdough tried for for New Hampshire's 8th district. He wanted to keep New Hampshire white and states white folks need their own homeland (but he says he's not racist).

http://www.concordmonitor.com/artic...?SESS2eb05ff9af4f9b440b49f1bbe4887347=gsearch
http://themaineteaparty.com/photo/moochelle-bumper?context=user

 

[billc]

Carol, they also questioned John McCain because he was born in the Panama canal zone, and he quickly ended the controversy by showing the proper documents. "Moochelle" obama, a personal attack, sure, but not racist. There are individual nut jobs in every organized movement, but I will tell you that racism is not what the tea party is about. People are trying to smear the tea party members because they are being effective in influencing republican politics and directing the political conversation toward excessive taxation and excessive spending. There are also organized campaigns to send people to tea party events with racist signs to get them in front of any camera they can find. Big Don had a link to one specific guy who called for volunteers to do it. If you want to mention the one guy in New Hampshire you would also have to look at the nut job hangers on to all the political parties. The democrats have way more than one or two nutty hangers on and the President himself has at least three friends who are either terrorist bombers or supporters, not to mention outright racists.

The tea party is a movement that wants to get government under control, race as an issue is a weapon being used against the tea party.

 

[billc]

As to the guy in New Hampshire:

from wikipedia

[h=2]Political activities[/h]New Hampshire state party chairman Ryan Murdough ran in the Republican Party of New Hampshireprimary for a seat representing the Eighth District of the Grafton County delegation to the New Hampshire House of Representatives,[SUP][13][/SUP] but he was refused support by the Republican party, which called him a "despicable racist".[SUP][14][/SUP] He placed fifth out of five candidates in the Republican primary, garnering 296 votes (11%).[SUP][15][/SUP] Murdough is now the National Political Director for the National Socialist American Labor Party which espouses Nazi beliefs.[SUP][16][/SUP]

As a socialist he would be more at home on the democrat ticket, especially with his racist views.

 

[Twin Fist]

birthplace isnt racial

calling his wife a cow isnt racial

personal attacks? sure, but not racial

HUGE difference

are there racist in the tea party? i am sure there are

are there racists in the democratic party? i KNOW there are. ROBERT BYRD sat in congress for 125 years or something, and he was a friggin GRAND WIZARD in the actual klan

but niether is founded on racism, and that is the claim against the teat party types

it simply doesnt hold water

Mmmm....yes, that's why 3 years were spent talking about where President Obama was born. That was a debate of which Obama policy exactly? The Maine Tea Party referring to a "Moochelle" bumper sticker? Ah, that was just a typo right? I mean, that couldn't have been a personal attack. And then there was the guy at the Concord tea party rally last summer, one Mr. Ryan Murdough tried for for New Hampshire's 8th district. He wanted to keep New Hampshire white and states white folks need their own homeland (but he says he's not racist).

http://www.concordmonitor.com/artic...?SESS2eb05ff9af4f9b440b49f1bbe4887347=gsearch
http://themaineteaparty.com/photo/moochelle-bumper?context=user

 

[Carol]

As to the guy in New Hampshire:

from wikipedia



As a socialist he would be more at home on the democrat ticket, especially with his racist views.

I'm thinking he'd be more ad home on Mars, or maybe one of those island-countries where he live without being troubled by people that don't look like him.

 

[billc]

Just for reference, here is an article on John McCain's birth issue:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/05/01/AR2008050103224.html

The headline:

[h=1]McCain's Birth Abroad Stirs Legal Debate[/h]

But Sarah H. Duggin, an associate law professor at Catholic University who has studied the "natural born" issue in detail, said the question is "not so simple." While she said McCain would probably prevail in a determined legal challenge to his eligibility to be president, she added that the matter can be fully resolved only by a constitutional amendment or a Supreme Court decision.
"The Constitution is ambiguous," Duggin said. "The McCain side has some really good arguments, but ultimately there has never been any real resolution of this issue. Congress cannot legislatively change the meaning of the Constitution."

 

[Carol]

birthplace isnt racial

calling his wife a cow isnt racial

personal attacks? sure, but not racial

HUGE difference

are there racist in the tea party? i am sure there are

are there racists in the democratic party? i KNOW there are. ROBERT BYRD sat in congress for 125 years or something, and he was a friggin GRAND WIZARD in the actual klan

but niether is founded on racism, and that is the claim against the teat party types

it simply doesnt hold water

Sure. I don't for a minute think the Tea Party is founded on racism. Nor do I think they are defined by the fringe wackos, but if/when it is the fringe wackos that get attention, thats when the distortion starts. You've been to gatherings, they are open to everyone that wants to come by...even people with differing ideas and unfortunately even the nutcases that want to mooch off the party's organizational efforts. Why go through all the trouble to get your own group together when you know someone else will be bringing 100 politically active voters to the Capitol building tomorrow night? If the tea party wants the political clout of being a election player, I think the tea party should take the path of sticking to the issues, avoiding personal attacks, and distancing themselves from nutjobs that appear, preferably before they get on a ballot.

 

[billc]

They do all of those things and have even had teams out with signs that say "He isn't a tea party member," which they hold next to the people who come to the tea party and hold up the racist stuff to get on camera. But there is only so much you can do in a large gathering and where the cameras from news organizations actively seek out the nutjobs.

 

[billc]

Here is a video of a tea party member confronting a racist infiltrating the tea party...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYfmShJe5MA

and here is another video of someone trying to get on camera to smear Rand Paul and the tea party.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bvcIzpyzAUs&feature=related

on the one below, the non-tea party member breaks his cover at the 2:34 mark

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8I3FbC_hq8&feature=related

 

[Carol]

They do all of those things and have even had teams out with signs that say "He isn't a tea party member," which they hold next to the people who come to the tea party and hold up the racist stuff to get on camera. But there is only so much you can do in a large gathering and where the cameras from news organizations actively seek out the nutjobs.

Thats at least something to show that dreck ain't welcome here. Doesn't have to be limited to racist stuff either, could be the nutjobs like the guy who made it to the NH state house (before the tea party existed) with twisted libertarian views that included killing cops if they get out of line (his tenure didn't last long). The guy is still around, and while he seems to have no interest in the Tea Party, I'd wager that the Tea Party wouldn't be fond of having him on board either.

 

[Tez3]

Add to that Obamacare, his alienation of Israel and Britain, his love of increasing taxes and increasing spending and you have about all the reasons the tea party needs to want him gone and Herman Cain or any other republican in the office and none of that has anything to do with race.

We've been alienated? I think someone forgot to tell us.