Jason could have a moment here where he realizes that Santa in not real.
Was Jesus married?
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I wouldn't deny anyone their right to believe in anything they want, they can believe the Hulk is real or that Little Women is the literal truth, it only begins to matter when they start impinging on others and trying to enforce their views as being the only correct one. It does seem odd however that in an established religion such as Christianity where everyone accepts that their main focus Jesus was born Jewish and kept to his traditions, ideas and worship that we have someone who differs so much from that established idea. I know some think the Old Testament is literal and some think it's allegorical and others that it's all madeup but none of these groups doubt it's Jewish. It seems indeed that Jason is denying the existance of Judaism which goes against all historical facts, if you leave out the religious aspect there is still the people to consider. Who does he think the Jewish people are?
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So... we shouldn't point out the texts of the Qu'ran, the Torah itself, the Ethiopian Bible, or the rest of the "Apocryphal" texts...? It might help his understanding..? Yes?
Yeah, it is a novel statement.
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Uh...yeah. First off, there would have been nothing special about his having a wife at all-it was a cultural expectation. The only one in all of the New Testament we can guess with any certainty to not have had a wife would have been Paul, and, as a Pharisee, it's likely that he was married, and, in 1st Corinthians, 95-7, he does mention "a wife," so it's entirely possible that he had one-Eusubius used this verse in 325 A.D. to show that Paul did have a wife, but I digress...
Just as believers can say about God to atheists, so I say to you:absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
No, the Bible makes no mention of Jesus's wife. Nor does it mention his beard, his long hair, his tools,(or, for that matter, his being a "carpenter,") his diet, his eyes, or his sword. All things that he's likely to have had, or that we can be certain he had, at least, inasmuch as we can be "certain" that he existed.
Of course, "the Bible," as you know it, is largely the creation of men, who discarded Gospels that do mention Jesus's wife.
Congratulations, Jason. You have written the most asinine statement I have ever read. Could this perhaps be called putting the cart before the horse? I've been a chaplain assistant for 12 years, and served with some of the best chaplains in the army, ans some of the worst, too. And every single one of them would be laughing if they read what you just wrote.
It is a RIDICULOUSLY contrived interpretation of reality.
The Tanach (the old testament) is a Jewish compilation of Jewish scripture. And the Tanach was QUOTED by paul, and loosely quoted by a couple of the gospel writers. By LITERAL definition, Christian's used Jewish scriptures.
*facepalm*
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Just an aside here to sidetrack the thread for minute ...as the troops here deploy to deploy to Afghan I'd like to salute a brave bunch of Christians who take tolerance to a new level and manage to be there for everyone whatever religion and with none, they don't try to convert, they listen, offering tea, quiet wisdom and dry humour They are brave under fire as they aren't armed. I salute the Christian padres who accompany their regiments through thick and thin.
Thank you.
Thank you.
I'll pass your thanks to my niece (MP, equestrienne), who is now in theatre. She also fondly salutes our Allies who bravely fight along side us :asian:
The Jewish concept of Messiah is not G-d. The Messiah will be a man of the line of David (strike one). Will gather all Jews to Israel (strike two). Will usher an era of world peace (strike three), will have a male heir who will reconstitute the Danhedrin (strike four) and build the Third Temple (strike five).
Judaism uses none of Xtianity's books, quite the reverse. And we read them in the original language.
Just WOW. You have no concept of historical and erligious matters do you.
Rough timeline.
4,000 years ago, G-d tells Abraham to leave for a land He will give him and He will make him a great nation.
3,000 years ago, The Jews leave Egypt and wander in the desert to find the only piece of land in the Middle East that has no oil. It's rare enough that it takes them 40 years to find it. Along the way, they haved a rest stop at the foot of a mountsain. Moses decides that mountain climbing is good exercise, goes up and G-d gives him the Torah.
2,000 years ago, A good Jewish boy is born. We know he was Jewish because a) he lived at home until he was 30, b) went into his father's business and c) thought his mother was a virgin. The boy decides to do something that's always been popular with Jews, and calls himself the Messiah. Jewish history is replete with those making such claims.
1,800 years ago, 4 guys from Liverpool, opps, 4 guys decide to write about the Jew Yoshua, the book's a hit.
How can you possibly claim that the Tanach is not antecedant to Xtian books? Bu quirk of location, I went to Catholic school, never heard anybody even hinting at such a thing. AAMOF, Xtians are rather fond in mistranslating and/or interpreting Jewish books to find references of Jesus.
A nice piece on the new fragment:
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...roversial-New-Text-About-Jesus-170177076.html
http://www.smithsonianmag.com/histo...roversial-New-Text-About-Jesus-170177076.html
Good questions, worth thinking about, not necessarily from a religious point of view but certainly from an academic and historical one.
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Good job! :lfao:
Seriously, it's one of main-stream Christianity's "sacred cows."
Jesus was celibate. Jesus was pure. Jesus was too good for any earthly woman Jesus was above the desires of the flesh.
Jesus was a man. The Bible makes no mention of his testicles, but I'm certain.......well, you get the picture. :lol:
Jewish kids can twist their parents round their little fingers for most parts. My daughter ( age 27) perfected as soon as she could talk how to say 'daaaad?' in such a way that she hadn't said the final 'd' before her dad said yes
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