Was Jesus married?

[jks9199]

An opinion piece in the NY Times by Fr. James Martin, S.J....

What if corroborating evidence of marriage is found from an earlier date? What if scholars unearth a first-century papyrus with additional lines from, say, the Gospel of Mark, which states unequivocally that Jesus was married? Would I stop believing in Jesus, or abandon my vows of chastity?
No and no.
It wouldn’t upset me if it turned out that Jesus was married. His life, death and, most important, resurrection would still be valid. Nor would I abandon my life of chastity, which is the way I’ve found to love many people freely and deeply. If I make it to heaven and Jesus introduces me to his wife, I’ll be happy for him (and her). But then I’ll track down Matthew, Mark, Luke and John, who wrote so soon after the time of Jesus, and ask them why they left out something so important.

 

[punisher73]

WAIT!!!!!


This just in

He was married

Or are you calling Leonardo da Vinci liar

gonna have to call "photoshop" on that one. It is interesting in the painting that a woman is present, and one of the 12 disciples is missing.

What is also interesting is that in "The DaVinci Code", one of the main books to provide "historical evidence" about the theory/plot was Holy Blood Holy Grail, which based all it's support on an old text that was known to be a fake and not real at all.

 

[Xue Sheng]

gonna have to call "photoshop" on that one. It is interesting in the painting that a woman is present, and one of the 12 disciples is missing.

What is also interesting is that in "The DaVinci Code", one of the main books to provide "historical evidence" about the theory/plot was Holy Blood Holy Grail, which based all it's support on an old text that was known to be a fake and not real at all.

I was not serious..much the reason for the "" and the DaVinci code is a work of fiction

 

[Instructor]

That self censorship had better buy me some leeway when I die if it turns out there is a God after all :lol:.

Whether or not you believe in Him Sukerkin He loves you.

 

[granfire]

gonna have to call "photoshop" on that one. It is interesting in the painting that a woman is present, and one of the 12 disciples is missing.

What is also interesting is that in "The DaVinci Code", one of the main books to provide "historical evidence" about the theory/plot was Holy Blood Holy Grail, which based all it's support on an old text that was known to be a fake and not real at all.

Fiction.

With just enough historical facts strewn in to make things interesting on the 'what if' level.

(just for argument's sake tho: If Mary was a disciple, there was non missing in the picture. What is missing is the goblet He was drinking from)

Funny tho...the posture of this person makes more sense in the photoshopped position....interesting. (I had not seen that one before)

 

[Xue Sheng]

 

[granfire]

stalker!
I was looking at the same picture.

(plus I stand corrected, the glasses are on the table)

 

[Instructor]

http://www.sonofman.org/last.htm

"The most historically accurate rendition of the Last Supper is
two of Nicholas Poussin's paintings. In terms of superb color and the mood
depicted, the one in the National Gallery of Scotland in Edinborough is superb.
It is worth a special trip, if you really want to see the glory of what it was
like during the Last Supper.

This painting from Olga's Gallery
(http://www.abcgallery.com/P/poussin/poussin35.html ) seems to be an earlier
rendition, almost a practice. Nevertheless, this as well as the other in
Edinborough accurately describes the furniture (tricline) and posture of the
Apostles. Tricline is a Roman, squarish U-shaped divan or sofa. On the exterior
of all three sides (hence tri) dining guests recline (hence cline). The open
side is for servants to serve food, and in this painting the servant is leaving
the room on the left side of the room."

 

[granfire]

http://www.sonofman.org/last.htm

"The most historically accurate rendition of the Last Supper is
two of Nicholas Poussin's paintings. In terms of superb color and the mood
depicted, the one in the National Gallery of Scotland in Edinborough is superb.
It is worth a special trip, if you really want to see the glory of what it was
like during the Last Supper.

This painting from Olga's Gallery
(http://www.abcgallery.com/P/poussin/poussin35.html ) seems to be an earlier
rendition, almost a practice. Nevertheless, this as well as the other in
Edinborough accurately describes the furniture (tricline) and posture of the
Apostles. Tricline is a Roman, squarish U-shaped divan or sofa. On the exterior
of all three sides (hence tri) dining guests recline (hence cline). The open
side is for servants to serve food, and in this painting the servant is leaving
the room on the left side of the room."

LOL

The occasion was probably a lot less grand than this.
I mean, they all paint what they thought the scene might have looked like.

 

[Tez3]

Edinborough? Where's that then? EDINBURGH! http://www.rampantscotland.com/features/pronounce2.htm

 

[Xue Sheng]

Edinborough? Where's that then? EDINBURGH! http://www.rampantscotland.com/features/pronounce2.htm

Well I can guarantee you it is not in Edinburg NY

 

[Instructor]

LOL...hey Tez how would your pronounce my town Gloucester, VA?

 

[punisher73]

I was not serious..much the reason for the "" and the DaVinci code is a work of fiction

I got it was a joke, should have put in my smiley too. I just thought it was a good point to elaborate on, that there are ALOT of people that view "The DaVinci Code" as all facts woven through the book everytime that they talk about the painting or the plots etc.

 

[Tez3]

LOL...hey Tez how would your pronounce my town Gloucester, VA?

However the locals pronounce it, it's only polite.
It might seem trivial but this thread is about something that has been written down so a little accuracy wouldn't go amiss.

 

[punisher73]

Fiction.

With just enough historical facts strewn in to make things interesting on the 'what if' level.

(just for argument's sake tho: If Mary was a disciple, there was non missing in the picture. What is missing is the goblet He was drinking from)

Funny tho...the posture of this person makes more sense in the photoshopped position....interesting. (I had not seen that one before)

Assumption is that DaVinci didn't include Judas Iscariot in the painting. It is also assumed that it is Mary in the painting. The posture is very unique in that they are leaning away from each other though. It definately reflects some views that DaVinci held though when re-creating the scene.

 

[punisher73]

In the painting, it is very hard to tell if it was an actual woman or an effeminate man. On the retouch, it looks more like a female though.

 

[Instructor]

However the locals pronounce it, it's only polite.
It might seem trivial but this thread is about something that has been written down so a little accuracy wouldn't go amiss.

Locals say it like: gloss - tur.

 

[Xue Sheng]

LOL...hey Tez how would your pronounce my town Gloucester, VA?

Back in Massachusetts it is pronounced Gloster.....Gloucester, Ma

 

[Xue Sheng]

I got it was a joke, should have put in my smiley too. I just thought it was a good point to elaborate on, that there are ALOT of people that view "The DaVinci Code" as all facts woven through the book everytime that they talk about the painting or the plots etc.

Well THIS one is real

 

[Tez3]

It's less about pronounciation than being accurate, a lot of what Christians see in their Bible is stuff that has been translated so many times it's really lost a lot, not to mention political translations. Writing 'Edinborough' ,might mean nothing other than a misleading spelling mistake but what if the word instead was something else like the word 'maid' describing a young girl? And that word 'maid' was translated as 'virgin' instead? So you have the original ... a maid who is pregnant being described as a virgin who is pregnant and you have yourselves a whole different kettle of fish.