WARNING! Talkative 'Bouncer' incoming!

[Drac]

Also, its cool to see there are other ‘bouncers’ here as well, so I have a question for you guys: are you called bouncers where you work (or used to work, from what it sounds like), or are you called something else (like how we call ourselves ‘club hosts’)? And, (just out of curiosity), what martial arts have you trained in, and have you used it a lot?

One of the bigger clubs I worked at labeled us "Floorwalkers"..It was either bouncer or security at all the other places.

 

[Grenadier]

Welcome aboard. Not too many Krav Maga folks here, from what I have seen, but it's certainly nice to hear about one's experiences with the system.

 

[Jade Tigress]

Congrats on venturing out of lurkdom! lol Welcome to MT...Happy posting and Enjoy!

 

[JamesDraegun]

Welcome aboard. Not too many Krav Maga folks here, from what I have seen, but it's certainly nice to hear about one's experiences with the system.

Thanks! The reason for not many U.S. Krav Maga'ers could be b/c its a new (compared to many other MAs) system, but also because of the price...Krav classes seem to cost more so than other martial arts in general: in Kentucky, I know of a TKD area that costs $30 a month, but if you go to NKU and become part of the TKD club there, its only $15 dollars a month; there's a Karate (don't know which form) that has classes ranging from $40-50 to even $60 a month; but Krav classes (in general from word of mouth and personal experiance) can cost from $70-100 a month!
When Krav becomes more common (though that could be a long time), it will decrease in average cost, but for now, I'm paying (due to bringing in a few other people to the class) $60 a month, but I believe its worth every penny if you ask me!

 

[Martial Tucker]

Oh, I didn’t realize that that situation would sound different on paper, so let me explain it shortly:
A guy had gotten into an argument with (presumably) his girlfriend and a friend of hers, and the guy showed no common thought as he decided he should attack them instead of talk. He slapped (hard) one of the girls, and pushed the other. My dad and two other club hosts where there in a snap, as my dad got behind and grabbed the teen, while one club host took care of the girls, and other held the crowd back from dad and the teen (since what would you want to do if you saw a guy hit a girl? Ugly it would escalate too). Dad took the teen to the lobby, all the time talking to the kid, trying to calm him down, be his buddy you know? The kid didn’t want to hear any of that, and flail and cursed like life depended on it. Dad was then in the lobby, with his back to me and the cash register, his front to the entrance to the club, his right to a wall, and his left to stairs (two sets of them which curve up, with a landing in the middle of them, leading to the downstairs and outside, since this club is inside and upstairs). The teen then kicked my dad’s bad knee, and then the teen was starting to get out of his grip, and while there was club host just coming inside the place and starting to go up the first set of stars, dad knew he wouldn’t be here in time to help, so: up and over! The teen flew down the entire first flight of steps without touching a single step. The club host downstairs picked up the relatively unharmed, but dizzy and shocked teen and escorted him out…
If anything, I’m surprised that my 45-something dad, who I have never seen in an conflict, has nothing to look at physically, (being 5’9” and only weighing 130-140lbs, though not all muscle) be able to restrain and throw an 18-year-old 5’11’’ teen outweighing my dad by a good 30-40lbs…and seeing this on my first day of work, yes, I was impressed.. Sorry Martial Tucker for the misunderstanding, as I didn’t realize what that situation sounded like on text.

Oh, and thanks to all the welcomings, its nice to find a forum as comfortable as this one. (In our club, we treat teens as adults, and they show there appreciation by acting quite nice. And for those that act inappropriate, we treat them just like an adult (in a sense, like we aren’t to go as hard on them, but you get what I mean), and from what I’ve seen lurking here, Martial Talk has a similar attitude, which is nice, trust me, I’ve been to some pretty bad forums before).

Also, its cool to see there are other ‘bouncers’ here as well, so I have a question for you guys: are you called bouncers where you work (or used to work, from what it sounds like), or are you called something else (like how we call ourselves ‘club hosts&#8217? And, (just out of curiosity), what martial arts have you trained in, and have you used it a lot?

James,

Let me repeat my earlier "Welcome" to MT. I appreciate your taking the time to put your earlier post in a more proper context, and I am impressed by the mature way that you handle criticism. Maybe it was just me, but your first post sounded to me like a kid overly impressed by an inappropriately violent father, and you seemed to relish the fighting aspect of being a bouncer. To be quite frank, I felt that in your first post, you came across as a bit of a punk kid/wannabe bouncer. After reading your subsequent posts, it appears that perhaps I misjudged you.

I was a bouncer for several years (back in the '70's) in a pretty nasty place. I've seen really good, and really bad bouncers. I had the reputation of being a "peace-maker" and tried to avoid violence always. That being said, the one time I really "lost it" was when a guy hit one of our waitresses and knocked her over a table. That guy ended up spending a week in the hospital, so I will say that I understand the emotions involved in the situation you mentioned.
Regardless, thanks for the background info, and again, welcome to MT. It's a really friendly place with lots of great info.

 

[Kreth]

Welcome to MT. Nice to see another B5 fan.

 

[Phadrus00]

James,

Welcome aboard!

Rob

 

[Zoran]

I have a question for you guys:
1. are you called bouncers where you work (or used to work, from what it sounds like), or are you called something else (like how we call ourselves ‘club hosts’)?

2. And, (just out of curiosity), what martial arts have you trained in, and have you used it a lot?

1. We were called bouncer, doorman, or security. Depended on where I worked.

2. Kenpo. It worked well for me. Although I did have to make some adjustments as Kenpo tends to focus more on gaining control of a conflict through striking. However, Kenpo is flexible enough, and gives you enough of an understanding of body mechanics, to allow you to use less damaging techniques.

That being said, the one time I really "lost it" was when a guy hit one of our waitresses and knocked her over a table. That guy ended up spending a week in the hospital, so I will say that I understand the emotions involved in the situation you mentioned.

I would love to say the guy learned a valuable lesson, but somehow I doubt it, as those type of people usually don't. Probably the only person that learned anything was yourself.

I also tended to use verbal persuasion of many sorts to resolve a situation. I only became physical when I had exhausted all other options, or I wasn't given a choice. One establishment I worked at, calling the police wasn't a viable option (complicated and difficult to explain). So we were for the most part on our own. So if someone won't leave, we had to carry them out ( or bounce ).

 

[kelly keltner]

welcome

 

[bluemtn]

Welcome and happy posting, James! Talk away!

 

[trueaspirer]

Hello there! Welome to Martial Talk. Don't worry, you'll enjoy yourself.
See ya around!

 

[shesulsa]

Greetings and welcome!