@Rat Irrespective of your vertical fist preference (which I share as a bareknuckle guy), I'd recommend finding a good modern boxing instructor and getting the fundamentals of punching, covering, slipping, and all the rest down correctly. Then you can add things like the vertical fist, the Dempsey Drop, the Mendoza guard and whatever else you like. You'll spend a lot less time just becoming a good boxer first.
(heard that its somewhat rigid in comparison to other styles) So it would need to blend well with basically just maiming the other person as fast as possible. (not just by clubbing their head with your fists/elbows)
Go with kenpoJust worth another addition, the obvious answer is MMA, but i would like a strong stand alone kickboxing system to study.And then a grappling. Preferably to replace the boxing, add kicking, add knees, add elbows, add sweeps, add clinch fighting etc so i don't need to do multiple classes. I would also opt to keep self defence and sport separate. Still planning to try FMA.
I have somewhat considered muay thai, but it just depends how sport like its taught as my end goal is more for self defence.
Or anything really. At this point you've missed out on a year of training, trying to find out the right style to train.
The solution is go to a school and see where it falls on the variety. Not going to a school because you've heard some of the schools are bad and others are good is just a bad idea.Im not even touching kempo with a 20 meter stick with the amount of variety i have seen with it.
this is just pre planning anyway. edit: and asking what would be a good thing to look out for as a advancement to legs etc.
Just worth another addition, the obvious answer is MMA, but i would like a strong stand alone kickboxing system to study.And then a grappling. Preferably to replace the boxing, add kicking, add knees, add elbows, add sweeps, add clinch fighting etc so i don't need to do multiple classes. I would also opt to keep self defence and sport separate. Still planning to try FMA.
I have somewhat considered muay thai, but it just depends how sport like its taught as my end goal is more for self defence.
That would only be target differences.20-40% more groin and eye strikes!
But i wouldn't know, i presume its the same.
Sport vs ??? "a combative derivative" what does that mean?
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MMA is an obvious answer. I'd guess there are some gyms where you could put together exactly the progression you're talking about, though I'd recommend leaving the progression up to the guys teaching (they'll know better than you when it's time to add another tool).Just worth another addition, the obvious answer is MMA, but i would like a strong stand alone kickboxing system to study.And then a grappling. Preferably to replace the boxing, add kicking, add knees, add elbows, add sweeps, add clinch fighting etc so i don't need to do multiple classes. I would also opt to keep self defence and sport separate. Still planning to try FMA.
I have somewhat considered muay thai, but it just depends how sport like its taught as my end goal is more for self defence.
Probably more like 5% difference, I'd bet.20-40% more groin and eye strikes!
But i wouldn't know, i presume its the same. I do think sport might be more rigid and i think there is a combative derivative from it.
(i originally thought you asked what the difference between sport and self defence was, so i wrote a well worded rambling response on it)
20-40% more groin and eye strikes!
But i wouldn't know, i presume its the same. I do think sport might be more rigid and i think there is a combative derivative from it.
(i originally thought you asked what the difference between sport and self defence was, so i wrote a well worded rambling response on it)
Or learn all the useful stuff, then add on the street stuff. You're not going to be able to poke someones eye out if you cant first get your hand/fist to land on their face first
