The battle in Florida, 2.0

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It's nice to have 2 Republican Candidates on the 'Three-way' ballot; Bush and Nader. I got fooled last time around. A little bit by both. Remember when Bush was a 'Centrist' Republican ....

Anyhow, this will be Ralph Nader's last stand. After this, he will become an interesting footnote in automotive history.

The Nation Magazine said:
If there was ever any doubt that Ralph Nader's former supporters understand that redefeating Bush is the top priority for progressives in this election, it ended this morning when the overwhelming majority of Nader's 2000 National Citizens Committee issued a strong statement urging support for John Kerry and John Edwards in all swing states. (Click here to read the statement.)

Among the more than 75 signers are Phil Donahue, Noam Chomsky, Barbara Ehrenreich (who used one of her New York Times column to come out against Nader), Jim Hightower, Howard Zinn, Tim Robbins, Eddie Vedder, Susan Sarandon, Ben Cohen and Cornel West.

This urgent call comes at a time when it appears that the Nader campaign has qualified for the ballot in some 23 states, a minimum of 10 of which are considered swing states. Nader will probably also qualify for several other swing state ballots by the time of the election. In a race which remains both close and highly polarized, any one of these states could end up as the new "Florida," and tip the electoral college vote to Bush.

While the 75-plus signers include a spectrum of views, all are united around a single proposition: Ending the national nightmare of Bush. As Noam Chomsky describes the stark choice: "Help elect Bush, or do something to try to prevent it."

A number of signers also stress the importance of working to (re)defeat Bush on behalf of the world community. "We are not just voting for ourselves," says political strategist Steve Cobble. "The entire world wishes they could vote in our presidential election--so they could vote against George W. Bush, pre-emption, bullying and unilateralism."
 
I just don't understand why Nader's running though. His platforms show that he's more anti-Bush than Kerry is, but Nader's got to know that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the election, and that all he's doing is drawing away votes for Kerry.

Part of me wonder's if he's getting a Republican pay-check.
 
RandomPhantom700 said:
I just don't understand why Nader's running though. His platforms show that he's more anti-Bush than Kerry is, but Nader's got to know that he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of winning the election, and that all he's doing is drawing away votes for Kerry.

Part of me wonder's if he's getting a Republican pay-check.
He may not be getting a paycheck, but he sure does seem to get the support from the Republicans that have tried so hard to get him on the ballot in order to be "fair".:rolleyes:
 
Well, maybe it will counter the tens of thousands of voters that are illegally registered in New York and Florida. 537 votes is not many, but it is enough to win.
 
Hey Kerry folks. Don't worry. Michael Badnarik & Richard Campagna will take more votes from Bush than Nader will take from Kerry.
 
*reads over the article*

That's it, I'm moving to Canada.

Hmm, wow, set up a federal voters registration system for the freakin' national elections. Now THERE'S a strange concept. And I especially loved the defense of "it was an accident" in response to questions about double-voting. Sorry, I was sleep-walking, and accidentally got on a plane to Florida and voted again.
 
I think that a federal voter registration system could be accomplished quite easily. We all have (or should have) social security numbers. How hard could it be to implement a system utilizing our SSN to register to vote?

I'd truly like some thoughts and feedback on this.

Now, as far as the dual registrations, I think the problem could be even worse. I knew a Military guy in Guam that claimed to have voted in two different states via absentee ballot. How true his claim is, I don't know.
 
Yeah, I don't know how risky it would be with hacking and all, but why not have a computer at every polling place that can check to see if a SSN has voted yet? Seems easy enough. That way, you could actually go to any polling place in any county in any state and vote for your own state. Is that unreasonable? Of course, it would be easy for those working in the polling places to rig the election, but there's got to be some solution.
 
Actually, it might help if the news media would wait until the election is actually over until they report it. The fact that they broadcast each state as the polls close could alter a person in the West's desire to vote if it looks like the election is already over or their person really needs the help. I've heard that since Florida is in two time zones, it was announced that the polls were closed in Florida, even though the panhandle was still open for another hour.
 
Xequat said:
Actually, it might help if the news media would wait until the election is actually over until they report it. The fact that they broadcast each state as the polls close could alter a person in the West's desire to vote if it looks like the election is already over or their person really needs the help. I've heard that since Florida is in two time zones, it was announced that the polls were closed in Florida, even though the panhandle was still open for another hour.
This is a good point indeed.
 

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