taxes

[tshadowchaser]

don't know if this has been posted befor


Isn't this amazing?


TAXES
Accounts Receivable Tax
Building Permit Tax
Capital Gains Tax
CDL license Tax
Cigarette Tax
Corporate Income Tax
Court Fines
(indirect taxes)
Dog License Tax
Federal Income Tax
Federal Unemployment Tax
(FUTA)
Fishing License Tax
Food License Tax
Fuel permit tax
Gasoline Tax
(42 cents per gallon)
Hunting License Tax
Inheritance Tax Interest expense
(tax on the money)
Inventory tax IRS Interest Charges
(tax on top of tax)
IRS Penalties
(tax on top of tax)
Liquor Tax
Local Income Tax
Luxury Taxes
Marriage License Tax
Medicare Tax
Property Tax
Real Estate Tax
Septic Permit Tax
Service Charge Taxes
Social Security Tax
Road Usage Taxes
(Truckers)
Sales Taxes
Recreational Vehicle Tax
Road Toll Booth Taxes
School Tax
State Income Tax
State Unemployment Tax
(SUTA)
Telephone federal excise tax
Telephone federal universal service fee tax
Telephone federal, state and
local surcharge taxes
Telephone mi nimum usage surcharge tax
Telephone recurring and non-recurring charges tax
Telephone state and local tax
Telephone usage charge tax
Toll Bridge Taxes
Toll Tunnel Taxes
Traffic Fines
(indirect taxation)
Trailer Registration Tax
Utility Taxes
Vehicle License Registration Tax
Vehicle Sales Tax
Watercraft Registration Tax
Well Permit Tax
Workers Compensation Tax


COMMENTS:
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

What the hell happened

 

[Sapper6]

that is pretty crazy. i noticed there were even a couple not mentioned...

 

[michaeledward]

don't know if this has been posted befor

COMMENTS:
Not one of these taxes existed 100 years ago and our nation was the most prosperous in the world, had absolutely no national debt, had the largest middle class in the world and Mom stayed home to raise the kids.

I do not think that the United States was the most prosperous country in the world in 1905.

I do not think that the United states had the largest middle class in the world in 1905.

I do not think that Mom stayed home to raise the kids in 1905. Quite probably, Mom and the kids were working either a) on the family farm or b) in the factory. (One quick item I found was Lochner v New York - which overturned a workday limit of 10 hours. Yes, by all means, let's get back to those 14 hour workdays).

It's always nice to attack the government, though.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

In 1901, there was a Worlds Fair held in Buffalo NY.
- Buffalo had a population of 400,000
-- Today it is 292,000.

- Buffalo was the 8th largest populated city in the US in 1901.
-- Today it is not in the top 50.

- In 1901 Buffalo was home to captains of industry, millionaires and even a President.
-- Today, half of our 'leaders' are retiring, ashamed of driving the city into debt.

- In 1901 the area was low tax, and prosperous.
-- Today Buffalo (and NY state) is one of the highest taxed areas of the country. Is it any wonder that 26-30% of the population are below the poverty range?

Listing all of these taxes only shows part of the problem. You left off all the "User Fees".

A gallon of gas for example in NY has 32 cents state tax, 19 cents federal tax, etc. We're even being taxed on our tax!

The American Petroleum Institute, an industry association, estimates that New Yorkers pay at least an additional 42.6 cents a gallon. There are eight cents for excise tax, 15.2 cents for the petroleum business tax, 0.3 cents for a "spill tax," a petroleum-testing fee of 0.05 cents, and sales taxes. Incidentally, the excise tax is included in the price when the sales tax is calculated, so New Yorkers pay a sales tax on the excise tax, according to a spokesman for the New York affiliate of the AAA, Robert Sinclair. And thanks to the city sales tax, residents of the five boroughs are hit even harder. Rising gas prices have pushed the average city take on a gallon to about 22 cents a gallon.

Every time some politician has a pet-project they want to fund, they try to add on a new tax, or since taxes are limited, a new "user fee". In Buffalo we pay taxes that are supposed to cover such things like garbage collection. But, it's not enough, so they add on a "per can" "garbage fee". Sounds alot like double and triple taxation to me.

 

[MA-Caver]

One of the reasons (IMO) that all these taxes are up and growing is because people are PAYING them... as U.S. Citizens we do have the right to protest these taxes and to have proper representation for each and every single one of them. But seems that a new tax is brought up and all the people do is gripe amongst themselves and not to whom they need to do. Write letters to the tax-makers. I'm not talking about the singlular letter writers I'm talking as a whole. Many of these taxes would be dropped if people would protest them enmassed.

Double edged sword... dropping some of the taxes and who's going to pay for services needed by the community.
Still some are just useless ways to get money from the people.

 

[Shizen Shigoku]

What I never understood was having income tax *and* sales tax - they get you coming and going.

 

[Xequat]

That's part of why I like the concept of a consumption tax. You always know exactly how much you're being taxed. We had a pretty heated thread on that a while ago though ( I think it was based on fairtax.org or something), but it's pretty long. We probably shouldn't start on that topic in this thread.

 

[Bob Hubbard]

Drop the illegal income tax, close down the outside the law IRS, drop all these unfollowable add-ons and put out a straight 15% sales tax on everything.

Gas woud drop from 2.75 to 2.30 just by doing that.

 

[michaeledward]

Looks like somebody has been reading Steve Forbes new book. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0895260409/qid=1125266227/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-2943678-3632101?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

Although, I believe a thoughtful person would be skeptical of any program being pushed by a billionaire.

 

[jfarnsworth]

[/color][/size][/font]What the hell happened[/b]

I think we were taxed to death.
:jedi1:

 

[michaeledward]

Where do your 'Income Taxes' go?

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http://www.warresisters.org/piechart.htm

 

[mrhnau]

I'd be all in favor of a consumption tax, its the only tax system I've ever heard of that makes any real sense... then again, politicians would find some way to screw it up


I'm not a huge fan of socialized anything, but I have played with this notion for a while... let government run a certain sector, and let them "buy" out any private dealers. Lets say for instance, the power grid. Take over distribution of electricity. They run it as a for-profit agency, the total purpose of which is to make enough money to not have to demand any more taxes. They bump up the prices a good bit, but since people have more take home cash, they are capable of affording it. I'm just using electricity as an example.

Here are the bad points - its socialized! I'm afraid enough of the government doing anything, I'd hate to see how they could screw up an entire industry. There would need to be external auditing to make sure everything is legit and nothing illegal being done (could that ever be secure?)

Here are the good points - taxes are incredibly simplified, no need for the IRS or related industries....

What you guys think?