Taichi push hand

[Kung Fu Wang]

2) Push hands is a progressive practice intended to start from the simplest scenario (fixed step) & progress to the most complex scenario (moving step with trips & sweeps) before it becomes something else (San shou or Shuai Jiao).

Agree with you 100% on this.

This is the Chang Taiji PH training. It has 4 different stages.

 

[Xue Sheng]

Yang Taiji has 7 star stance in

- hand playing lute,
- defending hand,
- step forward to 7 star.

The 7 star stance is used to control your opponent's leading leg. But Yang Taiji guys just don't use it in PH.

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Diagonal flying, and for the record, the guy in the picture, is not close enough to the person he is demonstrating on. He is not in control of the guys center and he needs to be

there are also a few more, but to be honest, I'm not going to go look for videos or pictures. However, do most folks practicing taijiquan today use them this way?.... no, they probably don't even know the application exists. There is a lot of qinna and Shuaijiao in traditional taijiquan, but most doing taiji today are only doing the moving meditation.

Look for videos from Liang Shouyu or some from Yang Jwing Ming and you will se applications.

 

[Flying Crane]

The SJ jacket is also called "hero skin". When you have it on, if anybody challenges you, you have to accept the challenge and you cannot refuse it. When you have it on, if you get hurt (or killed), you cannot sue anybody.

I wouldn’t hang my hat on that notion. Not in the US at least.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Diagonal flying, and for the record, the guy in the picture, is not close enough to the person he is demonstrating on. He is not in control of the guys center and he needs to be

IMO, the Taiji diagonal fly can be executed in 2 different ways.

You can throw your opponent

1. backward - you need to control his back leg.
2. sideway - you need to control his front leg.

It's just common sense that if you let your opponent to have 2 free legs, he can easily get away.

 

[Oily Dragon]

If you use 7 star stance to control your opponent's back leg when you push, he will fall. This skill already exist in the Taiji system, why not just use it?

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Shou.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Shou.

The static push hand make no sense. According to the general MA guideline, your

- hand should coordinate with your foot.
- elbow should coordinate with your knee.
- shoulder should coordinate with your hip.

By freezing your legs and just move your arms just violate the general MA guideline big time.

 

[Oily Dragon]

The static push hand make no sense. According to the general MA guideline, your

- hand should coordinate with your foot.
- elbow should coordinate with your knee.
- shoulder should coordinate with your hip.

By freezing your legs and just move your arms just violate the general MA guideline big time.

Unless you can't use your legs. Then it all makes perfect sense.

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

Unless you can't use your legs. Then it all makes perfect sense.

Why should you let the sport ruleset to restrict your combat skill development? If the more that you train the static PH, the less that you know how to use your leg, it's better not to train static PH at all.

 

[Oily Dragon]

Why should you let the sport ruleset to restrict your combat skill development?

There are a lot of ways you can't use your legs so much. Sports only cover a few.

If you're tangled up with someone on the ground, you're not doing any fancy trips. That's when shou matters most.

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