Bob,
This may be one of those cases where you post things just to see if anyone will refute them, If so, i'll take the bait.
"The
Battle of Jenin (
Arabic: مجزرة جنين‎,
Hebrew: הקרב בג'נין‎ lit.
Battle of Jenin) took place between the 3rd and 11th of April
2002 in
Jenin's
Palestinian refugee camp as part of
Operation Defensive Shield during the
Second Intifada. Following numerous
suicide bombing attacks by
Palestinian militants on
Israeli civilians, culminating with a
suicide bombing at Park Hotel in Netanya during a Passover holiday meal (
March 27,
2002), in which 30 Israelis were killed and 140 were injured;
[2] Israel had deployed the
Israel Defence Forces (IDF) to conduct what it considered a large-scale
counter-terrorist offensive, called "Operation Defensive Shield".
[3]
As part of the operation, Israel targeted Jenin's refugee camp, after it determined that the city had "served as a launch site for numerous terrorist attacks against both Israeli civilians and Israeli towns and villages in the area",
[4] including the dispatch of 28 suicide bombers since the start of the Second Intifada.
[5]
The Israeli force consisted of
infantry and
armored vehicles, supported by
attack helicopters. Towards the end of operations
armored bulldozers were used heavily
[6][7][8] which caused extensive damage and contributed to the destruction of around 10% of the camp area.
[6][9][10]
Palestinian sources have described the events as "the Jenin massacre," and international media and human-rights organizations initially expressed concerns that a
massacre had taken place. Subsequent investigations found no evidence to substantiate these charges. The Palestinian death toll was estimated at 52, while 23 Israeli soldiers were killed."
uh huh. That doesnt make Israel look very bad at all. But yeah, Israel does go too far sometimes I admit, but will you admit that if the bad guys (see palestinians) would cut the crap, the Israelis would leave them the hell alone?
Bob,
I didnt claim that the crusaders acting like kittens. No one would claim that. I claimed that the crusades were a reaction to muslim aqggression. You proved my point. Thanks.
Also, your contention " It's not rich kids blowing themselves up here." is false. Mohammad Atta was the son of a surgeon, college educated. Well to do. Most of the other 19 terrorists in the 9-11 plot were from upper middle class families. All had stayed in the west, in the lap of luxury so to speak and still drove planes into buildings.
While there is no "all" Christians just dont do these things. There is a fundamental difference in the religions. Christianity is about peace, Christ told his followers to preach to the unbeliever.
Islam is about war. The Koran teaches to "find the infidel and kill him, or force him to submit to Allah (convert).
There can be no moral relativism between christianity and islam
I am only speaking to the religions themselves, the actions of the followers are another subject.
