Stop Saddam's Execution??

[michaeledward]

I don't recall Sistani calling the elections fraudulent.

You're inability to recall a fact, does not mean the fact does not exist.



This is just a pointer - I'm sure you can continue with more in depth research, if you are inclined.

http://www.needlenose.com/node/view/1043

Indeed, our colonial provisional administration was so afraid of the people's will that we cancelled ad-hoc local elections all across Iraq in June of 2003. (Subsequent protests in Najaf, the home city of the Shiite religious establishment led by Grand Ayatollah Sistani, included banners that read, "Canceled elections are evidence of bad intentions.")

 

[Don Roley]

You are aware that those 'elated' Iraqi's who pulled down the big statue were all part of Ahmed Chalabi's Iraqi National Congress - flown in from England by the United States Military to be on display in that photo op - aren't you?


EDIT - Sorry, it wasn't the Iraqi National Congress ... it was the 'Free Iraqi Forces Militia'.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2842.htm

END EDIT

No, they were not. There may have been a case or two of certain groups pulling down statues and such, but there were many, many more of groups of ordinary citizens defacing pictures and such.

Gee, now some folks are saying that Hussein was a popularly elected president. The links you gave are great examples of that and were some of the most partisan, anti- Bush ones I have seen in a long time. They pretty much show their partisanship very clearly, but don't seem to back up what they say with facts. Even so, they do not give any quotes by Sistani that the elections held were fraudulant as you seem to think they do.

I guess the re-writing of history is just beggining with the left as they try to paint Hussein as a good man just to try to toss mud at Bush. It all seems very sick to me.

Speakling of sick- I have already chosen a song to sing and dance to when I hear Hussein has stopped dancing at the end of his rope.

 

[bydand]

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article2842.htm

http://www.needlenose.com/node/view/1043

Wow, those links were so far left I had to scoot the monitor over to read all of them.

 

[michaeledward]

Wow, those links were so far left I had to scoot the monitor over to read all of them.

Wow ... Funny.

But, when you moved the monitor, did you find anything that counters the assertions. How does Mr. Colbert put it ....

"Reality has a well known liberal bias"
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[bydand]

Speakling of sick- I have already chosen a song to sing and dance to when I hear Hussein has stopped dancing at the end of his rope.

Don, thanks for the link. I had forgotten all about Oingo Boingo. I think I'll kick it up as well when I hear the bugger is stretching rope, couldn't happen to a nicer fella. As for the whole debate about taking somebody elses life, shoot it is better than giving the rotten bastard a warm place to sleep and feeding him the rest of his life. $10 worth of rope and 10 minutes with a backhoe and the expense is over.

 

[bydand]

Wow ... Funny.

But, when you moved the monitor, did you find anything that counters the assertions. How does Mr. Colbert put it ....

"Reality has a well known liberal bias"
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Spoken like a true liberal media personality. Not you, but Mr. Colbert.

I actually like reading your posts because I usually do not think in the liberal mindset and it is a chance for me to look over the links and arguments you put forth, and question my own long held stands on different issues. I don't think we will ever see eye to eye on most issues, but it is refreshing to get a different view every once in a while.

 

[Andy Moynihan]

According to the news preparations are complete and Saddam is at the execution site.

Got my drink.

 

[Andy Moynihan]

It's done.

Al-Arabiya says bye-bye.

Diet 7UP has never tasted so sweet.

*glug*

Burn in hell, you worthless bastard.

 

[Kacey]

It is, indeed, done. Per MSNBC (the story is being updated, so the quote may change in the future):

MSNBC staff and news service reports
Updated: 2 minutes ago


BAGHDAD, Iraq - Three years after he was hauled from a hole in the ground by pursuing U.S. forces, Saddam Hussein was hanged Saturday under a sentence imposed by an Iraqi court, al-Hurra TV, al-Arabiya and Sky News TV reported.

 

[terryl965]

Well it did not cost me nothing so the rope was worth it, I hope he has a warm place where he is at.

 

[Don Roley]

Burn in hell, you worthless bastard.

I'll drink to that! :cheers:

Ding Dong the witch is dead!

Which old witch?

The Wicked Witch!

Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is dead!!!!!

 

[arnisador]

Yeah, I hate to be happy about anyone's death, but for him...I can see making an exception. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[MA-Caver]

Yeah, I hate to be happy about anyone's death, but for him...I can see making an exception. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

As my brother said to me last night via IM... "well now that's done... on to the next despot!"

 

[Drac]

I'll drink to that! :cheers:

Ding Dong the witch is dead!

Which old witch?

The Wicked Witch!

Ding Dong the Wicked Witch is dead!!!!!

The next round is on me Don...

 

[MA-Caver]

This from Newsweek

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16401644/site/newsweek/

‘I Saw Fear, He Was Afraid’
In a NEWSWEEK exclusive, the man hired to videotape Saddam Hussein’s execution recalls the brutal dictator’s humble final moments.
This video image released by Iraqi state television shows Saddam Hussein's guards wearing ski masks and placing a noose around the deposed leader's neck moments before his execution on Saturday.
This video image released by Iraqi state television shows Saddam Hussein's guards wearing ski masks and placing a noose around the deposed leader's neck moments before his execution on Saturday.

Dec. 30, 2006 - Ali Al Massedy was 3 feet away from Saddam Hussein when he died. The 38 year old, normally Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's official videographer, was the man responsible for filming the late dictator's execution at dawn on Saturday. "I saw fear, he was afraid," Ali told NEWSWEEK minutes after returning from the execution. Wearing a rumpled green suit and holding a Sony HDTV video camera in his right hand, Ali recalled the dictator's last moments. "He was saying things about injustice, about resistance, about how these guys are terrorists," he says. On the way to the gallows, according to Ali, "Saddam said, ‘Iraq without me is nothing.’"

Ali says he followed Saddam up the gallows steps, escorted by two guards. He stood over the hole and filmed from close quarters as Saddam dropped through—from "me to you," he said, crouching down to show how he shot the scene. The distance, he said, was "about one meter," he said. "He died absolutely, he died instantly." Ali said Saddam's body twitched, "shaking, very shaking," but "no blood," he said, and "no spit." (Ali said he was not authorized to disclose the location, and did not give other details of the room.)

Ali said the videotape lasts about 15 minutes. When NEWSWEEK asked to see a copy, Ali said he had already handed the tape over to Maliki's chief of staff. "It is top secret," he said. He would not give the names of officials in attendance, though he estimates there were around 20 observers. One of them, Iraqi National Security Adviser Mouwaffak al-Rubaie, told CNN that Saddam clasped a Koran as the noose was tied around his neck, and refused to wear a hood. He also said that government officials had not decided whether or not to release the videotape. The execution reportedly took place at 6:05 a.m. local time. Prime Minister Maliki did not attend.

More of this story http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16401644/site/newsweek/page/2/

 

[Tez3]

I don't think they are protesting his execution, and I don't think they are protesting the idea of execution. They are protesting the US, as they do in everything else. Your question mark after allies was appropriate.

By some accounts, Hussein is about twenty minutes from a short drop and a sudden stop.

You are making a very big assumption about an awful lot of people.It's insulting actually.

 

[Tez3]

http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=5096&start=0&&&edition=1&ttl=20061230173018

Some views from all around the world.

 

[Tez3]

The British Governments Official view


http://news.aol.co.uk/ex-leader-held-to-account-beckett/article/20061230050209990007

 

[bydand]

The British Governments Official view


http://news.aol.co.uk/ex-leader-held-to-account-beckett/article/20061230050209990007

Very good statement and one that reflects how I feel as well. It isn't my say, or anybody elses; other than the court that convicted him, what his punishment sould have been. AS long as it was carried out according to the principals and laws of the courts of the land that convicted him, we as other countries and certanly not as individuals have the right to say weather or not they were wrong. If the acceptable method of carrying out the death penality was hanging by the toenails until dead, then so be it. Just as Iraq would have no right telling either the US or the UK how to met out punishment, then neither do we as outside countries have the right, or reason to tell Iraq what was acceptable.

 

[Cruentus]

I'm glad he was killed. That is a nice New Years gift for everyone, in my opinion.

I think that there needs to be a seperation between death penalty on a state level and death penalty on an international level where folks are guilty of multiple acts of terrorism and genocide.

I am not for the death penalty on a state level. This is not because I am against killing someone who is a severe danger to society; it is because there is too much room for mistake. There are people, even with today's technology, who have been sentanced for crimes that was found later that they didn't commit. I am not for putting someone to death erroniously; and I think that there is still too much risk for that on a state level.

On an international level when we are dealing with terrorists and brutal dictators where there is NO QUESTION that these people are guilty, I am not opposed to doing away with them. In fact, anything I can do to help. I see this more as demon slaying rather then killing a person.

So, I think that there should be a seperation here. There is a huge difference between death penalty on a state level and death penalty on an international war crimes level.

So, I'll make sure I'll be toasting one to Saddam's demise this New Years! :cheers: