Solid color Karate belts question

opr1945

opr1945

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I have been looking at Karate colored belts for sale on line. There is a vast price differential in prices for new colored belts. From about $7 including shipping up to $40 and even more. I understand that for black belts the quality probably varies and the are embroidery and stripe options to cause prices to vary. But with, say a yellow belt, which a student hopes to wear a relatively short time, why does the price ?vary so much?

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For the begging student what would be the benefit of getting a more expensive belt?
 
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opr1945 said:
For the begging student what would be the benefit of getting a more expensive belt?
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Nothing absolutely nothing it’s a belt. A bit of fabric that goes around your waist. Whether it costs 1 dollar or a million dollars it’s just a belt
 
IMO, there's no benefit to getting a more expensive belt unless it's a black belt. Maybe for brown belt as well (some judo gi/belt manufacturers have premium brown belts that are of the same quality as the premium black belts) since the brown belt is usually worn for a considerable amount of time (between a year to a year and a half), though I wouldn't do it. There's a dojo up the street from mine where brown belts are embroidered, and I think that's pretty cool. I imagine that it may have something to do with them wanting brown belts to "feel" like black belts by having them look the part more.

For BJJ, spending the extra buck on a high quality belt is a understandable as well, because you're going to be wearing each belt for at least two years.

But don't do it for karate. I only know one guy who did it - he was an orange belt at the time, and he tested less than a month after he got that new orange belt in the mail. It was a Tokaido, so I know he spent at least $20 on that thing. That could've been a nice steak dinner right there.
 
Really, there is very little difference between the cheap ones and the expensive ones. A lot of it is just mark up by brands. With our school discount we get belts for about $4 from our supplier and I have seen $50 kataaro kyu/gup rank belts that have the same rows of stitching and are made with the same quality, the difference is one has a kataaro lable and the other doesn't. Even my black belt is just a plain, unembroidered $8 black belt. I don't see the point in buying something so expensive when the plan is to train in it and eventually wear it out. My last black belt was the same $8 belt and it lasted me about 17 years before it got so worn out I needed to buy a new one to look presentable. It's kind of like overpriced wine; the higher price tag doesn't necessarily corelate to the quality but it makes you feel better knowing it cost more.
 
J. Pickard said:
Really, there is very little difference between the cheap ones and the expensive ones. A lot of it is just mark up by brands. With our school discount we get belts for about $4 from our supplier and I have seen $50 kataaro kyu/gup rank belts that have the same rows of stitching and are made with the same quality, the difference is one has a kataaro lable and the other doesn't.
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I understand that with Kataaro, you can choose with width, thickness, and stiffness of the belt. Also, all color belts are available in satin, not just black.

So maybe the Kataaro belts you've seen are the cheaper ones.
J. Pickard said:
Even my black belt is just a plain, unembroidered $8 black belt. I don't see the point in buying something so expensive when the plan is to train in it and eventually wear it out. My last black belt was the same $8 belt and it lasted me about 17 years before it got so worn out I needed to buy a new one to look presentable. It's kind of like overpriced wine; the higher price tag doesn't necessarily corelate to the quality but it makes you feel better knowing it cost more.
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It all comes down to personal preference. Let's not get to insulting people for spending more than $8 on a black belt.
 
Hot Lunch said:
It all comes down to personal preference. Let's not get to insulting people for spending more than $8 on a black belt.
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Who's being insulting? My statement about the wine is just a true and interesting fact about how price tags effect your mood and outlook on a product. Lots of studies done on this, the data from these studies (usually done with wine) show that people tend to appreciate and perceive a higher value or level of quality to an item when the cost is higher even if there is no distinguishable difference or the items are identical. I don't think there is anything wrong with buying a $200 belt if it makes you happy, just stating that there is rarely a difference in quality.
 
J. Pickard said:
Who's being insulting? My statement about the wine is just a true and interesting fact about how price tags effect your mood and outlook on a product. Lots of studies done on this, the data from these studies (usually done with wine) show that people tend to appreciate and perceive a higher value or level of quality to an item when the cost is higher even if there is no distinguishable difference or the items are identical. I don't think there is anything wrong with buying a $200 belt if it makes you happy, just stating that there is rarely a difference in quality.
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I've already mentioned the differences in quality that are options in Kataaro belts. Hell, even the quality of color belts issued to new students on promotion are of a noticeable difference in quality between my last dojo and my current one. My last dojo gave out belts that were very light in weight. When you wore them, gravity wasn't able to pull the ends down to make them hang straight. They twisted and almost looked like drill bits (that's an exaggeration, but you get the idea). Except for when you made black belt - they gave you an embroidered satin Shureido.

Again, if you're only going to be wearing such a belt for a short amount of time, that's easy to deal with. If you're wearing a black belt... probably not.

Point is, there are differences.

I liken it to this: most men go to the barbershop every other week, and spend about $30 on a haircut. However... you could also buy your own set of hair clippers for $20, and shave your own head as often as you want.

If a man gets a bi-weekly haircut at the barbershop, it's not because spending the money makes him feel good. It's because he prefers the look of having neatly cut hair over the look of having a completely shaven head.

It's the same thing with black belts.
 
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Actually, I do also. primarily Education Degrees and certifications. As is common in my professions. LOL
 
A belt is to keep your pants up. With a karategi, it does not even have that purpose so as a grown up any will go, whatever the color.

The only advantage (I've actually been looking) may be for kids. My 10yo son is still not that tall, and the height of normal belt is annoying to him when doing a proper mae geri. For the next one, I'm thinking of getting him a strip of cotton with the proper coloring with half the grown up height.
 
I was talking to a student at the academy I attend and he said when he started in the 80's they were given a white belt and when they earned yellow they were told to buy some Rit dye and dye it. Then they dyed same belt green. And then brown. same belt. Got a new belt at black. (still only 3 colored belts before black)
 
Fabric stores sometimes sell webbing in various widths by the inch. Several years ago I purchased some white in 3/4" by the inch.
 
Hot Lunch said:
IMO, there's no benefit to getting a more expensive belt unless it's a black belt. Maybe for brown belt as well (some judo gi/belt manufacturers have premium brown belts that are of the same quality as the premium black belts) since the brown belt is usually worn for a considerable amount of time (between a year to a year and a half), though I wouldn't do it. There's a dojo up the street from mine where brown belts are embroidered, and I think that's pretty cool. I imagine that it may have something to do with them wanting brown belts to "feel" like black belts by having them look the part more.

For BJJ, spending the extra buck on a high quality belt is a understandable as well, because you're going to be wearing each belt for at least two years.

But don't do it for karate. I only know one guy who did it - he was an orange belt at the time, and he tested less than a month after he got that new orange belt in the mail. It was a Tokaido, so I know he spent at least $20 on that thing. That could've been a nice steak dinner right there.
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That makes sense. For Kenpo, at least the style I am taking has three degrees of brown belt. That's about a year and a half as a brown belt so I can see a student wanting a higher quality belt. It doesn't seem to make much sense for the lower belts. I was a yellow belt for a month before I had a surprise test for orange. Brown belt to me seems to be another milestone in the journey. I think every level up is special but brown belt seems to have a higher significance with having reached a more advanced milestone.
 
opr1945 said:
I have been looking at Karate colored belts for sale on line. There is a vast price differential in prices for new colored belts. From about $7 including shipping up to $40 and even more. I understand that for black belts the quality probably varies and the are embroidery and stripe options to cause prices to vary. But with, say a yellow belt, which a student hopes to wear a relatively short time, why does the price ?vary so much?

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The Isami Yellow Belt is the best yellow belt for Karate, Judo, and BJJ. Made in Japan, fully customizable, and exclusive to ChokeSports. Order yours today!
www.chokesports.com www.chokesports.com

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Shureido BU Karate Colored Belt Obi Made in Japan Okinawa official karate brand | eBay

The material of this Obi is cotton. 100% Authentic!
www.ebay.com

www.awma.com

ProForce® Double Wrap Solid Karate Belt 1.75" Blue Belt #0

These karate belts are made of 65% polyester, 35% cotton. Available in all rank colors: White, Yellow, Orange, Green, Blue, Purple, Red, Brown and Black. Available in sizes 0-9. 1-3/4&quot wide.
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For the begging student what would be the benefit of getting a more expensive belt?
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I cannot answer the question about the price swing, but I will say it is a color belt that you may wear for a year or less (style dependent). It will get dirty and tugged on and is a temporary station at best, so my recommendation is to go reasonably cheap on the price.
 
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