Royce wants a rematch with Hughes

cfr said:
Agreed. I think he should need to work his way up the ladder like everyone else. I also would rather see Hughes fight people that really deserve to fight him, not someone that deserved it a decade ago.

Either he should retire (which is what I think should happen) or he should work his way up for a title shot. He is no longer the champion, that position is now in Matt Hughes hands. Just my thoughts on the matter.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com
 
Royce Gracie vs Ken Shamrock headlining a UFN, that would draw a audience :)

Maybe bring back a bunch of that firstr generation of stars and do a whole show (UFN - Legends?) of them. Keith Hackney, Dan Severn, Tank, Kimo... and Joe Son, we can't forget Joe Son :D

Big draw, get the "old" fans excited, and not have the beatdowns associated with bringing a guy out of retirement to fight a top level guy right off the hop.

I'm sure it is all business, the only way they can get the really big stars of old back in is with a big paycheck, and the only way to justify that is to put them up against a top star of today so that they can be a headliner.

Don't think it would work to pay Royce 1.2 million to fight someone with 2 UFC fights and a getting a purse that is still under 10,000 even if he wins...
 
Andrew Green said:
Royce Gracie vs Ken Shamrock headlining a UFN, that would draw a audience :)

Maybe bring back a bunch of that firstr generation of stars and do a whole show (UFN - Legends?) of them. Keith Hackney, Dan Severn, Tank, Kimo... and Joe Son, we can't forget Joe Son :D

Big draw, get the "old" fans excited, and not have the beatdowns associated with bringing a guy out of retirement to fight a top level guy right off the hop.

I'm sure it is all business, the only way they can get the really big stars of old back in is with a big paycheck, and the only way to justify that is to put them up against a top star of today so that they can be a headliner.

Don't think it would work to pay Royce 1.2 million to fight someone with 2 UFC fights and a getting a purse that is still under 10,000 even if he wins...

I would watch Royce vs. Ken on Spike TV. I would not pay for it but I would defintely be very interested in it for free on Cable.

Brian R. VanCise
www.instinctiveresponsetraining.com
 
I guess the natural reaction to getting beat, no matter how convincingly, is to want a rematch. Unfortunately, age doesn't seem to bring enuf wisdom to stifle such urges. Hughes to totally dominated Gracie that a rematch is almost unthinkable. This fight was the first one I had ever seen where Gracie was without his Gi, revealing someone who really hasn't much muscle, and who, without his main weapon, is obviously, almost, defenseless against a fighter (s) like Hughes. The same sort of thinking might be applied to the Shamrock/Ortiz matchup-- #3. Ortiz so totally dominated Shamrock in the second fight and the first, that a rematch seems almost ridiculous; and perhaps it is. But at least it is not a pay per view -- I mean who would pay to watch it? Also, Ortiz might just not be as up for this one, since it isn't a huge pay per view fight, and it the 3rd fight for them -- he might not be as pumped. This may not have a huge effect on the eventual outcome, but it may not end in the lst minute either. Perhaps without all the hype, and because it isn't such a 'huge' event, Shamrock will retain some of his former edge -- and not fold like someone who has never fought before!
 
I never thought that Royce would win, but I did expect more of a fight than this. After seeing the first one, honestly, I'd have to pass on the second unless it was free tv. I don't think that Royce has, or ever had, the tools he needs to beat Hughes. I greatly respect Royce, but this is a totally different sport than when he started.

As far as his comments, I have to say I take them with a grain of salt. I've met Royce and he is a nice guy with supreme confidence in himself. He and his brothers were brought up believing they were special. When your brought up that way, of course your going to believe that you can win, no matter how often you lose. Really it's a good attitude to have, because it's the attitude of successful people. The thing is he's running into a brick wall with Hughes, and if you let him he'll keep doing it.
 
I hope he doesnt fight him agian, Royce has to understand that his time in the ufc is done, if he continues to fight he will do nothing more then destroy his name I've already heard the new generation of MMA'ers come out with things like 'Royce gracie was over hype rubbish Chuck Liddel would destroy him' and things like that.

Please Royce quit while your a head bro!
 
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