Roy Mauled by Tiger!

I taped the Larry King interview with Siegfried from yesterday or the day before.

The Tiger almost certainly tried to pick up Roy like a cub and drag Roy to safety After Roy fell down.

Roy smacked the Tiger on the nose After the Tiger bore down on him apparently. It seems like it was a common "hint" that the animal should stop and was "nothing" to the Tiger, certainly not enough to make it mad. Just to get his attention, like snapping your fingers to get your kids attention perhaps.

And I have only seen Larry King a few times but man, he seems very stupid and insensitive and self-absorbed to me. And you'd think he'd know better than to make faces when he might be caught on camera too... but there may be medical reasons for that. I digress.

I wish I'd seen Seigfried and Roy once before or followed them more closely until now. I'm pretty guilty of judging them harshly from a very great distance. I CNN.com says tonight that Roy has a 95% chance of Survival.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/10/siegfried.roy.mauling.reut/index.html

"Doctors give injured Las Vegas animal trainer and illusionist Roy Horn a 95 percent or better chance of surviving last week's tiger mauling, former boss and casino entrepreneur Steve Wynn said Friday."
 
After over 40 years and well over 5000 shows and their work with conservation all over the World, I'm thinking Roy and maybe even Siegfried know more than the experts who claim that Roy was just lucky that the 600lb Tiger didn't kill him.

Give me a break. These guys raised Montecore didn't they? And don't Tigers bite and shake their prey when they are killing them?

I think it is more likely that, as Siegfried said, Montecore thought Roy was more of a Tiger and when Roy fell over Montecore grabbed him and pulled him to safety.

But maybe not. Maybe he just couldn't kill Roy. He is such a big strapping Hulk of a man.
:rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by cdhall
After over 40 years and well over 5000 shows and their work with conservation all over the World, I'm thinking Roy and maybe even Siegfried know more than the experts who claim that Roy was just lucky that the 600lb Tiger didn't kill him.

Give me a break. These guys raised Montecore didn't they? And don't Tigers bite and shake their prey when they are killing them?

I think it is more likely that, as Siegfried said, Montecore thought Roy was more of a Tiger and when Roy fell over Montecore grabbed him and pulled him to safety.

But maybe not. Maybe he just couldn't kill Roy. He is such a big strapping Hulk of a man.
:rolleyes:
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Tigers, like all big cats, kill by biting and collapsing the wind pipe and sufficating their pray. There is virtually no real shaking going on. Its actually quite a calm method. I agree that it is hard to believe that the animal that they raised and have worked safely with for so long would turn on them so quickly, but they say it takes about 20 generations to breed into captivity and I don't think they are there yet with tigers. They just can't resist instinct all the time. Kind of like the fable of the frog and the scorpion.
 
Originally posted by OULobo
Tigers, like all big cats, kill by biting and collapsing the wind pipe and sufficating their pray. There is virtually no real shaking going on. Its actually quite a calm method. I agree that it is hard to believe that the animal that they raised and have worked safely with for so long would turn on them so quickly, but they say it takes about 20 generations to breed into captivity and I don't think they are there yet with tigers. They just can't resist instinct all the time. Kind of like the fable of the frog and the scorpion.
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Very cool. Thank you. I didn't know that, but I still think Siegfried and Roy might know a lot based on all the work they've done with howevermany various Tigers etc they have worked with.

I really don't know. Thanks for the extra clue.
:asian:
 
I saw another interview with Steve Wynn last night Monday Oct 13, 2003 and he said that Montecore was certainly not trying to kill Roy.

He said that Roy's only neck injury was 2 puncture wounds from Montecore's fangs where Montecore bit him to pick him up.

He said that if Montecore wanted to kill Roy, he could have easily taken a bigger/real bite and snapped his neck.

He said that tiger can exert something like 1600 pound of pressure per square inch when biting.

I am posting here because I can't find such a transcript online. Anyone, please post or send me a link if you find this interview online. Thanks.

Hmmm, it looks like this is mostly what I saw but I just saw it last night. This also looks like a good resource for articles on this incident.
http://www.msnbc.com/local/knsd/A1824130.asp?cp1=1

I may have said it earlier but I knew almost nothing about these guys before this incident but I hope everything turns out well.

This looks most like the interview I saw, it mentions the tape and the puncture wounds. It was from Saturday Oct 11 apparently.
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_home/2003/Oct-11-Sat-2003/news/22349200.html
 
I just read a news item that said that Roy has had 4 operations, has had to be revived twice and is paralyzed on his left side.........anyone else heard any more? I thought he was getting better but these injuries mentioned here are more extensive than what I've heard anywhere else. Makes me wonder more on the future of their show. The paralysis could be temporary I guess- but the article didn't say.

:asian: :karate:
 
If the tiger tried to kill he would be dead. Simple as that think about it. The tiger would probably simply take a bigger bite and it be over not drag him along. The tiger also returned to its cage did it not. WOuld a raging tiger go willingly into its cage?
 
We have a tiger preserve near us (Clay City, IN) with over 100 tigers that people tried to keep as pets etc. that are now being raised there. My wife and kids have been there but I haven't yet (I was working that day).
 
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