Possible Bomb attack in London

[OUMoose]

So Mike...would you want to place a wager on who dunnit?

I have my money on those crazy Raelians... Lord knows what a lizard-person is capable of.




*blinks*


Sorry... Trying to lighten the mood on a dark day.

 

[michaeledward]

So Mike...would you want to place a wager on who dunnit?

Tom, that is just sick!

 

[Tgace]

A large, co-ordinated, multi-target, bombing (Al Queda favorite) attack....short of an Al Queda statement, seems pretty safe to make an educated guess...

 

[Dan G]

Again, I say .... Timothy McVeigh


Nice quote ... do you know it wasn't posted by a 14 year old wise-crack from Denmark? I don't.

Could someone claim that they were responsible for the attacks, but really have nothing to do with it?

And if it is a 'Secret' organization .... it could be Sweden, it could be Germany, it could be Portugal.

I believe our President has stated we will make no distinction between the terrorsits and the states that harbor them. Such sentiments, while excellent in John Wayne movies, don't really hold up too well in the real world.

I agree. Jumping to conclusions and looking too quickly for blame is a potential mistake. The methodology seems similar to the bombings in Madrid and elsewhere. Those have been attributed to groups claiming to represent Islam and having a characteristic methodology; this methodology and also the loose affiliation of some groups claiming to represent Islam can both be referred to, sometimes confusingly, as "Al Qaeda". To speculate further at this point is to go too far.

If creating and/or exploiting a sense of injustice within the Islamic community is an aim of those responsible for the bombings it makes sense to be extremely careful to act, and be perceived to act, in a just and unbiased manner.

So far those that planned the London bombs have achieved nothing, it would be good to keep it that way.

On a positive note I reckon the pubs will be busier for the next few weeks. One happier side-effect of the events today is that a lot of people have been contacting friends and family, and catching up for long overdue drinks with old friends is an inevitable result.

Cheers,

Dan

 

[spiderboy]

On a positive note I reckon the pubs will be busier for the next few weeks. One happier side-effect of the events today is that a lot of people have been contacting friends and family, and catching up for long overdue drinks with old friends is an inevitable result.

Cheers,

Dan

Hi Dan,

It's good to hear that everyone up there seems to be ok. I'm looking forward to sharing a drink (ok, maybe two..) with you guys a week from now.

See you then,

Alex

 

[Dan G]

Hi Alex,

Definitely up for a beer or three the weekend after next.

Promises to be another awesome summer camp!

See you then,


Dan

 

[arnisador]

Like I told my kids on 11 Sept. 2001: You now live in a different world.

 

[Floating Egg]

Like I told my kids on 11 Sept. 2001: You now live in a different world.

What's different about it? It's the same bloody thing that's been going on for at least 1500 years.

 

[Tremble]

What's different about it? It's the same bloody thing that's been going on for at least 1500 years.

And the rest....

 

[kenpoworks]

I have just come off a night shift.

""When Timothy McVie bombed the Oklahoma City Murrough building, I jumped to a conclusion about who might be invovled .... I thought it was Saddam Hussein.""

I don't think I named names just what I thought their backround was, it was a little knee jerk i suppose, but i lived in cental London during the 70s and witnessed the "green Park" bomb and was walking towards the "Hilton" bomb to meet my sister as it went off.
I don't like terrorists no matter what nationality,creed , colour or persuasion they might be.
As for the rest of your post, yeh let the cia, mi5 or whoever do there thing thats obvious and the crack about Sweden "woosh"!!, well it made sense to you

 

[Don Roley]

I agree. Jumping to conclusions and looking too quickly for blame is a potential mistake.

Well some people that oppose the Iraq war seem to have no qualms in saying who it was. For example, take this article by Tom Hayden. It is not just him, Bill Fink, Galloway, etc are all saying that this was done by Islamist extremists in response to the war in Iraq.

I do happen to believe that it was the work of Islamic terrorists because a group associated with Al-Queda took responsibility for it. But they did not just claim it was for Iraq. They also said it was because England had troops in Afghanistan as well.

So the guys that are so quick to jump on with their political agendas like Hayden are probably going to do a quick tap dance around the fact that unless we say that attacking the Taliban was a mistake and let them come back into power, we will not get these groups to stop with their attacks. Of course, I don't think that anything we do short of turning to their brand of Islam will stop them. But don't expect any mention of the Afghanistan angle to be mentioned by certain people in the near future.

 

[Bammx2]

I have my money on those crazy Raelians... Lord knows what a lizard-person is capable of.




*blinks*


Sorry... Trying to lighten the mood on a dark day.

aaawww.....tellin jokes........
you're in trouble.
:uhyeah:

 

[Simon Curran]

Well I am probably gonna get toasted for this, but I am still severely wound up about the fact that our security forces were so intent on protecting others that they forgot about tax paying UK citizens.

Both my Dad and my brother-in-law are police officers in the London area, when it went down my Dad was on a day off, but of course got called in, no problem there that's his job.
My brother-in-law, however, was in Scotland doing security duties instead of in our nation's capital where he is supposed to be.
Sorry for ranting, but like I say, I'm still very wound up about this.

 

[Flatlander]

Just found some new images:

 

[Tgace]

The Brits are tough...they will get through, as they have throughout history.

So what do you folks in the UK think will be the results? Whats the "feeling" over there right now. Does this have the potential to end with the same results as the Madrid bombing (ruler ousted/troops withdrawn)?

As some of the potential claimants are mentioning Afganistan, are folks thinking we should get out of there too? Is it getting the same billing as Iraq now?

 

[Simon Curran]

The Brits are tough...they will get through, as they have throughout history.

So what do you folks in the UK think will be the results? Whats the "feeling" over there right now. Does this have the potential to end with the same results as the Madrid bombing (ruler ousted/troops withdrawn)?

As some of the potential claimants are mentioning Afganistan, are folks thinking we should get out of there too? Is it getting the same billing as Iraq now?

Well even though I don't live in the UK anymore, I am still a UK citizen, and I, for one, hope that it doesn't turn out like it did with Madrid, neither does anyone I have spoken to, I'm for sending more troops just to send a message that we won't allow ourselves to be terrorized.

 

[Bammx2]

Last night,
they had to evac Birmingham town center due t o some sort of a tip off.
They had to move approxamately 20-30,000 people from bars and night clubs.
From where I'm standing.......nothing much has changed.
Security precausions have gone up.naturally,but in general....
Whoever set off those bombs...they are just wasting thier time.
Everyone here is still going to work and going out partying with no major changes,cept a slightly new topic to discuss.
Now the rescue units are just trying to recover bodies down in one of the tubes......thats it.
God Bless the ones who were affected and God help those are responsable.

 

[Simon Curran]

Last night,
they had to evac Birmingham town center due t o some sort of a tip off.
They had to move approxamately 20-30,000 people from bars and night clubs.

Yeah I read about that one on the net last night, after so many years dealing with the IRA, they are pretty much on the ball when they get tip offs...

 

[michaeledward]

So Mike...would you want to place a wager on who dunnit?

British Citizens - born and raised. I guess I was wrong when I guessed Sweden.

I believe someone referred to an 'oppresive, sick regime'.

 

[Tgace]

So? The argument was that it was an Al Qaeda operation, not that the bombings were by foreign nationals. Experts are saying it was an Al Qaeda cell. Those complex, cell phone timed bombs arent something that non-trained personel are likely to do.

http://ktla.trb.com/news/nationworl...b14jul14-lat,0,5331768.story?coll=ktla-news-1

LONDON -- Investigators have linked one of the suspected London suicide bombers to a group of alleged extremists arrested here last year in a foiled terrorist plot by a Pakistan-based Al Qaeda group, authorities said Wednesday.

Mohamed Sidique Khan, a 30-year-old primary school teacher, has emerged as a key figure among the four suspected bombers, European and U.S. investigators said. Although officials had said that Khan and the other three were unknown to security personnel before last week's attack, investigators now think Khan was an associate of some of those arrested in last year's plot.

That strengthens suspicions that the London attacks were carried out by an Al Qaeda branch that teamed Pakistani masterminds with Pakistani British operatives and had tried to strike Britain before, investigators said.

Authorities believe that Khan and the other suspects, who traveled extensively to countries including Pakistan, Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia, received training from Al Qaeda specialists. Khan may have helped recruit and prepare his fellow bombers, who, like him, were Pakistani Britons from the northern city of Leeds, investigators said.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/07/14/opinion/edleiken.php

The London attacks showed that local European jihadist groups are coalescing into a united front prepared to follow Osama bin Laden's global strategy, aiming selective and ever more carefully planned attacks on America's European allies in Iraq.

We can distinguish two types of candidate Muslim terrorists. There are the "outsiders": alien dissidents, typically asylum-seekers or students, who gained refuge in liberal Europe from anti-Islamist crackdowns in the Middle East.

More recently, security services have widened their attention to encompass "insiders": European-born descendants of guest workers recruited to shore up Europe's post-war "economic miracle."

Like Theo van Gogh's assassin in the Netherlands, the London bombers were born in Europe. At least three of the bombers were British nationals of Pakistani descent, as were the two terrorist gangs broken up by British police in April and August of 2004.

A leaked British government document notes that "most young [British] extremists fall into one of two groups: well-educated undergraduates or with degrees and technical professional qualifications in engineering or IT; or underachievers with few or no qualifications, and often a criminal background."

Hmmm..sounds eeirely like the Lackawanna Six to me.