Polycotton vs Cotton Gi
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I'm not messing with Tokaido anymore.
For one thing, they have non-Japanese made gis that are way too overpriced. Their "Kata Master" gis (which is what I use now). They'd be perfectly fine if they were priced around $75 or $80 dollars, since the quality is no better than other other gis in that price range. And, IMO, that drags down the whole brand.
Also... they got rid of their Japanese made middleweight cotton. They only have middleweight in polycotton. Which means they turned all their customers who liked their middleweight cotton over to Hirota and Shureido.
I have gotten all mine from Moo Sool Sa for years. $80-$100 generally. Delivery can take a bit since they ship by sea from Korea, but you can pay a bit extra for quick delivery. They do all sorts of uniforms and also do embroidery.
Yeah, they're fine. I wear a size 6 but buy a 7 and cut the sleeves and pant length down. Roomy.
I saw what you did there.That’s the inexpensive material’s fault, is it Bill?
The only pop I'm capable of these days is my hip, knees, and shoulders.
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Wait, people really do this?
I've seen it in forms competition, yes. I don't know how common it is, because we've never been particularly interested in tournaments.
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That’s just oddly entertaining to me. I couldn’t resist a chuckle.
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Can I get one with a built in tambourine or accordion? 
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Since kata competition has a large, subjective element to it’s judging, an extra crisp and loud snap as the contestants punches and kicks might subconsciously sway a judge in the contestant’s favour.
In the video above, Riku Usama creates a lot of her ‘snap’ by slapping her hands/fists against her torso: notice how the punches and kicks themselves are fairly silent!
Does the country of origin make that much difference?
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The Seishin is priced higher than $200. Think about it.
Just like watches - at a certain price point, it had better be Swiss made (unless it's a Grand Seiko).
Jesse Enkamp knows this. Why do you think he's trying to give the impression that it's made in Okinawa when it's not? If he flat out told you that it's made in Pakistan, he wouldn't be able to sell them for $200+.
BTW, there are certain types of cotton that are only grown in Japan, and that's what Japanese gis are made of. They breathe much better than the gis made in China and Pakistan (like Seishin).
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Is that expensive?
Ah you have to be careful with thinking like this. I’m a wrist watch aficionado and Omega fan but there are plenty of countries that also make good watches. It just the ‘label effect’ ….Gucci, Moog, Fender, Gibson, Marshall…they live on their reputations.
Is that true? Do you have a reference for it that I could read or is it ‘common knowledge’?
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Yes. If you've heard of the brand, I'd think you'd have checked out their website.
Some of these brands may not be Swiss themselves, but their watches are still made in Switzerland.
Both, here's a quick one I could find that touches on it briefly.
5 ways to tell if your Tokaido Karate Gi is really from Japan
There are a number of Tokaido uniforms not made in Japan. Most traditional karate practicioners are seeking the authentic Tokaido gi that their instructor wore in Japan, or are looking to replace a Tokaido gi they themselves purchased in Japan - decades ago. Unfortunately, the marketplace is...
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If you notice when you're shopping around for gis and you're looking at the weight, non-Japanese brands measure the weight in ounces. This cannot be done with Japanese cotton. Typically, middle weight gis are made with cotton designated as "Number 11," heavyweight as "Number 10," etc. Again, this cotton is only available in Japan. You will never see Japanese made gis designated as "13 oz," etc.
Oh I have. $200 for a keikogi that’ll last what, 5 years sound reasonable to me.
Ha ha…ok.
Hardly an independent source and it’s a blog….someone’s opinion of whom we know very little.Both, here's a quick one I could find that touches on it briefly.
5 ways to tell if your Tokaido Karate Gi is really from Japan
There are a number of Tokaido uniforms not made in Japan. Most traditional karate practicioners are seeking the authentic Tokaido gi that their instructor wore in Japan, or are looking to replace a Tokaido gi they themselves purchased in Japan - decades ago. Unfortunately, the marketplace is...
To be honest, I’m not that Princess who can feel a pea through ‘twenty mattresses and twenty eider-down beds on top of the mattresses’. I think I’d personally find it nearly impossible to tell the difference in perspiration absorbency between these cottons. Do you think you could in a blind test? Are you that Princess?
Besides, I’m old school and can suck my sweat back into my ducts
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Do with it what you will. No skin off my back, either way.
To each their own.To be honest, I’m not that Princess who can feel a pea through ‘twenty mattresses and twenty eider-down beds on top of the mattresses’. I think I’d personally find it nearly impossible to tell the difference in perspiration absorbency between these cottons. Do you think you could in a blind test? Are you that Princess?
