Pirates? Just pay the ransom!

[just2kicku]

The solution to this is easy: pirates need to learn to identify the Dutch flag. And Canada's is pretty easy to recognize too.

I think the solution is to leave other ships alone or the pirates should end up dead! It shouldn't matter what flag you're flying.

 

[CoryKS]

I think the solution is to leave other ships alone or the pirates should end up dead! It shouldn't matter what flag you're flying.

But that's a solution that the Dutch and Canadians don't want to implement. So if we assume that all the players here are working for what they believe to be their best interests, the logical result is that the pirates should avoid US ships and focus on those held by countries who will either pay the ransom or catch and release the pirates. If the pirates decide that they prefer not to play catch-n-release and start killing people, then those nations need to decide whether to take a harder stance or just pay the ransom.

 

[just2kicku]

But that's a solution that the Dutch and Canadians don't want to implement. So if we assume that all the players here are working for what they believe to be their best interests, the logical result is that the pirates should avoid US ships and focus on those held by countries who will either pay the ransom or catch and release the pirates. If the pirates decide that they prefer not to play catch-n-release and start killing people, then those nations need to decide whether to take a harder stance or just pay the ransom.

Then where does it end? Pay the ransom and empower those high seas thugs, or make a stand and just start killing them off? I choose the later. If countries don't want to play, then we take care of our own and those countries can be responsible for letting the violence perpetuate.

Those sailors know the the risk they take in this day and age and the area they have to sail thru, just like law enforcement knows the risks, Military knows the risks, and so on.

The U.N. needs to put out the green light for all countries to shoot first and and ask survivors what their intentions were later. But they won't, it's like their all French or something.

If they don't want to play in this ugly game, then the US should start charging the defending of these ships on a time and material basis. We rescue Dutch sailors, you charge the cost of the ship and the crew plus whatever ammo used plus alittle extra. Same with the Canadians and whatever other country is too chicken **** to do anyhting about it.

 

[CoryKS]

Then where does it end? Pay the ransom and empower those high seas thugs, or make a stand and just start killing them off? I choose the later. If countries don't want to play, then we take care of our own and those countries can be responsible for letting the violence perpetuate.

Who says it ever ends? Each country can make its own choice about how to best deal with it, and they can deal with the outcome. Now if they would like to request aid from the US Navy, that's fine. But they need to know that they can ask us to do it, but they can't tell us how to do it. And realize that calling in the USN is probably going to be seen by the pirates as taking a harder stance. They will probably take steps to discourage that.

The U.N. needs to put out the green light for all countries to shoot first and and ask survivors what their intentions were later. But they won't, it's like their all French or something.

The UN has no authority here or anywhere. It's a fantasy baseball camp for third-rate countries to go play politics.

If they don't want to play in this ugly game, then the US should start charging the defending of these ships on a time and material basis. We rescue Dutch sailors, you charge the cost of the ship and the crew plus whatever ammo used plus alittle extra. Same with the Canadians and whatever other country is too chicken **** to do anyhting about it.

Doesn't necessarily mean they're chicken ****, they may believe that they have the best approach to the solution. Of course, it sort of belies that claim if they do get in the habit of calling in the Navy. I guess we'll see what happens.

 

[sgtmac_46]

The US should retaliate severely when it's a US ship or a US crew. US crews should be armed and not cooperate. Any other nations should act on their own. If other nations wish to pay ransoms, that's their choice. It'll be the ships flying the flags of those nations that the pirates will logically pick as soft targets.

So long as they leave our shipping alone, I don't care what another nation does.

 

[chinto]

The US should retaliate severely when it's a US ship or a US crew. US crews should be armed and not cooperate. Any other nations should act on their own. If other nations wish to pay ransoms, that's their choice. It'll be the ships flying the flags of those nations that the pirates will logically pick as soft targets.

So long as they leave our shipping alone, I don't care what another nation does.

Yep that should be the basic policy, unless a country decides that the same policy is theirs too. .. then well we should help as long as their naval and marine units agree to do the same.. and for the pirates, NO QUARTER! CRY HAVOC! and hang any Pirate survivors!