sgtmac_46
Senior Master
And again 10% of officers murdered are murdered in exactly that fashion.....in any fight a cop is in, there is ALWAYS a weapon.
Open carry misfortune
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Deaf Smith
Master of Arts
I don't understand why anyone would open carry in an urban/suburban area, that is for sure.
However, I do open carry when out working/playing in the woods. I also open carry on my own property (we live in a very rural area). I certainly think that there is room to do this while hunting/fishing/hiking in the great outdoors w/o being labeled as stupid with a blanket statement.
However, I do open carry when out working/playing in the woods. I also open carry on my own property (we live in a very rural area). I certainly think that there is room to do this while hunting/fishing/hiking in the great outdoors w/o being labeled as stupid with a blanket statement.
punisher73
Senior Master
Read the link that Kenpotex posted. While very rare it does happen.
Deaf Smith
Master of Arts
No doubt punisher. I have no doubt it's been done, especially in countries with a rebellion going on. And if times get tougher here, it might become more common.
Deaf
Deaf
sgtmac_46
Senior Master
No, I agree, there's nothing wrong with slapping on the Smith and Wesson .500 in bear country......it's not like the bears are going to jump up and disarm you (well, they might try to dis-arm you, but...)....the issue, though, is why you're carrying the gun......personal protection from bears, hunting.......or keeping to ward off human predators.
At the end of the day it's better to be armed either way generally, in my opinion......but if I can keep the other guy from seeing my hand, i'd prefer that....IMHO
sgtmac_46
Senior Master
Always!Apparently not anymore. Hope you guys got your concealed backup weapons
Guardian
Black Belt
I've read that also SgtMac, but I would venture to say that was after a struggle of trying to apprehend someone or simular situations, just for someone to say jump on a LEO, I haven't heard to many of those stories to get their guns.
That was my only point.
sgtmac wrote:
Mostly when out and about it's for bears. Mostly they are unseen/never-seen, but it's the mama bear with cubs that worries me. Cubs at times will run right-in where they shouldn't, and mama will go right-in after to protect them. Sometimes in the summer, I find bear scat in our back pasture, within 100 yds of the house.
Probably the biggest opportunity for us to meet the bears is when we are out picking berries, or fishing in the spring. If I am in an area that is frequented by a lot of people I do CCW, but for the most part, when I'm out in the woods, I open carry.
Mostly when out and about it's for bears. Mostly they are unseen/never-seen, but it's the mama bear with cubs that worries me. Cubs at times will run right-in where they shouldn't, and mama will go right-in after to protect them. Sometimes in the summer, I find bear scat in our back pasture, within 100 yds of the house.
Probably the biggest opportunity for us to meet the bears is when we are out picking berries, or fishing in the spring. If I am in an area that is frequented by a lot of people I do CCW, but for the most part, when I'm out in the woods, I open carry.
I'm sitting here watching this ridiculous action flick called "crank" on cable. It's silly and violent and sex filled and foul. And right in the middle of the movie, the hero sneaks up on a cop from behind and grabs his gun in broad daylight.
Art imitating life?
-Rob
I open carry often enough out here in Az. I work a gun shop couple days a week and open carry to and from the shop and in the shop all day. I'm faster in open carry mode by over 1/2 second should an attempt be made to take us down by bangers coming in the door; and open carry in the shop actually prevented an attempted take down of the register by three young bangers who were packin under their shirts when questioned about their intent while my hand was conveniently placed in close proximity to the firearm they could see.
I wouldn't carry openly going into some area where there was a crowd, retention could be problematic if someone wanted to get froggy and test the waters, pretty easy to lose it I'd think in that situation.
If you don't have a physical presence and are small and light, you might invite an attempted take away, on the other hand I think if you have project a physical presence and awareness and not lax in letting people get close enough to make an attempt, I don't think it's much of a possibility, certainly a possibility, but not a high probability.
Couple that with the BUG they don't see in the back pocket and some training in retention and martial skills, I'd think most situations could be handled if you have any skills at all if someone got stupid and tried it.
Brownie
I wouldn't carry openly going into some area where there was a crowd, retention could be problematic if someone wanted to get froggy and test the waters, pretty easy to lose it I'd think in that situation.
If you don't have a physical presence and are small and light, you might invite an attempted take away, on the other hand I think if you have project a physical presence and awareness and not lax in letting people get close enough to make an attempt, I don't think it's much of a possibility, certainly a possibility, but not a high probability.
Couple that with the BUG they don't see in the back pocket and some training in retention and martial skills, I'd think most situations could be handled if you have any skills at all if someone got stupid and tried it.
Brownie
Again, that's a bit of a different situation than open carry in public.
It's like some other poster said, I'm waiting to hear of the advantages to open carry that outweigh the disadvantages and haven't heard it yet. *shrug*
It's like some other poster said, I'm waiting to hear of the advantages to open carry that outweigh the disadvantages and haven't heard it yet. *shrug*
wimwag
Blue Belt
When carrying any weapon, you need to keep a higher situational awareness, even more so when you carry it openly. Being someone who openly carries daily (more comfortable for me) except in the winter or rain, I don't let anybody anywhere near my strong side and am always looking behind my back. When you first start carrying, you get pretty inventive in terms of looking at what's behind you.
Though if you conceal, you could be subject to a robbery too, especially if "printing."
If you want to carry it openly, you should carry big one and to have one on each sides.
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wimwag
Blue Belt
We could compare that statement to George Zimmerman's experience concealing. The "element of surprise" was Trayvon's and according to Zimmerman, Trayvon saw it and went for it. Sure, Zimmerman surprised Martin with a double tap, but that's after he was already victimized. Besides police officers losing their guns when they aren't paying attention to their surroundings, this is the only incidence I have ever heard of an open carrier losing his gun.
Armed is armed and no matter how you do it, at least you are taking the initiative. You alone are responsible for your own safety.
