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How:idunno:rmcrobertson said:4. Again--at present, if a cop pulls you over and wants to go through your car, they pretty much are going to go through your car one way or another. And if they find trouble, you are going bye-bye--and mostly, you can squack all you want, but baring a videotape or some monumentally stupid piece of cop behavior that is seen by witnesses, you are going bye-bye. And before anybody starts up, most of the time you SHOULD go bye-bye. Laws like this might (I say again, MIGHT) be a problem for cops, because they make your rights in a car a lot like your rights at home.
The debate over the general need to retreat is a valid one and, once outside the home, one I agree with. If you can, in complete safety, retreat or avoid danger I believe its common sense that you do so. This law only applies to the issue of use of force however, I dont see it really impacting search and seizure whatever. And I note that an attorney on this thread is of the same opinion. Perhaps its not us who are confused on this issue.....extending the Castle doctrine to a vehicle only means that you have no "duty to retreat" from your vehicle while, for example, being carjacked. And if you have fled to your car to escape you wont be expected to flee any further. It has nothing to do with altering any search and seizure law as I understand it....
Also..I like many of my brethren have little problem with our fellow citizens owning legal firearms. Follow the law and I have no problem with CCW holders...