New York City

[CrushingFist]

Looking for that Hard to Find Teacher type . Thats knows both aspects of Taiji health and fighting .

Also. a BJJ/Muay Thai, MMA, Shoot-Fighting, System Teacher.

Thanks

 

[pete]

hey rob,
you'll probably want to start with one style and learn it to a point where you are comfortable with it, then layer on other styles. i PM'd you with some good tai chi leads if you want to go that route...
pete

 

[CrushingFist]

Thanks, well maybe I can get a good idea of practitioners or teachers here that teach any of those styles

 

[lhommedieu]

Looking for that Hard to Find Teacher type . Thats knows both aspects of Taiji health and fighting .


Thanks

Tom Biso teaches Ba Gua Zhang, but also has a background in Xing Yi Quan and, to a lesser extent, Tai Ji Quan.

www.tombisio.com

Best,

Steve Lamade

 

[mwelch]

if you are still looking, you should check out Master Yu Cheng-hsiang. Best I have ever seen. Master Yu teaches several times a week, but there is a class on the 5th floor of 380 Broadway Sunday mornings from 10-1 that includes TCC form(108), Shaolin Ch'uan, Sword, Staff, Q & A, Lecture and Push Hands. Master Yu is a total hoot. Martial to the max. I have been studying with him for about 15 years.

 

[CrushingFist]

if you are still looking, you should check out Master Yu Cheng-hsiang. Best I have ever seen. Master Yu teaches several times a week, but there is a class on the 5th floor of 380 Broadway Sunday mornings from 10-1 that includes TCC form(108), Shaolin Ch'uan, Sword, Staff, Q & A, Lecture and Push Hands. Master Yu is a total hoot. Martial to the max. I have been studying with him for about 15 years.

thanks a bunch!

 

[Xue Sheng]

I do not know of any teachers in NYC but I would start with the suggestion of mwelch, Master Yu Cheng-hsiang sounds more like a true Tai Chi teacher.

Also; If you want the martial arts of Tai Chi you need to find a Tai Chi teacher that KNOWS Tai Chi Chuan.

If you go to a teacher that, for example, does Karate and Tai Chi you will get Karate applications of Tai Chi forms. This is not martial Tai Chi the applications are entirely different. Karate uses too much power if you are talking Tai Chi, as do all external martial arts.

If you find a TRUE tai chi teacher that knows the martial side, he or she also knows the health side.

Xingyi and Bagua are internal but still not Tai Chi, I practice Tai Chi I have practiced Xingyi and to a lesser extent Bagua. The applications can be similar but they are not the same. Tai Chi is considered soft and I have on occasion heard Xingyi as being described as hard/soft. Although I feel a good xingyi or bagua martial artist is very effective and very powerful it still is not Tai Chi.

But you should also know finding a teacher that knows or is willing to teach the martial side is difficult and learning martial tai chi takes a long time, but all internal martial arts take time, but I feel it is well worth the time it takes.

Most unfortunately there are more Tai Chi people out there interested in the Tai Chi health dance and crystal show than those that want the martial side. Back when I use to teach I lost students when started discussing the martial arts side of Tai Chi. Quote one student "THIS IS NOT KARATE…" and out the door she went.

And there are many more teachers that will teach Tai Chi as more of a moving yoga than a martial art. It is, most unfortunately, more lucrative.

I read an article, the authors name escapes me, he was a Chen style practitioner and I believe he is based in Beijing. He said that of all the people in the world today doing Tai Chi only 5% know anything about the martial arts side of it.

However I am sure in NYC there are true Tai Chi Martial Artists, if I hear of any I will let you know.

T

 

[CrushingFist]

I do not know of any teachers in NYC but I would start with the suggestion of mwelch, Master Yu Cheng-hsiang sounds more like a true Tai Chi teacher.

Also; If you want the martial arts of Tai Chi you need to find a Tai Chi teacher that KNOWS Tai Chi Chuan.

If you go to a teacher that, for example, does Karate and Tai Chi you will get Karate applications of Tai Chi forms. This is not martial Tai Chi the applications are entirely different. Karate uses too much power if you are talking Tai Chi, as do all external martial arts.

If you find a TRUE tai chi teacher that knows the martial side, he or she also knows the health side.

Xingyi and Bagua are internal but still not Tai Chi, I practice Tai Chi I have practiced Xingyi and to a lesser extent Bagua. The applications can be similar but they are not the same. Tai Chi is considered soft and I have on occasion heard Xingyi as being described as hard/soft. Although I feel a good xingyi or bagua martial artist is very effective and very powerful it still is not Tai Chi.

But you should also know finding a teacher that knows or is willing to teach the martial side is difficult and learning martial tai chi takes a long time, but all internal martial arts take time, but I feel it is well worth the time it takes.

Most unfortunately there are more Tai Chi people out there interested in the Tai Chi health dance and crystal show than those that want the martial side. Back when I use to teach I lost students when started discussing the martial arts side of Tai Chi. Quote one student "THIS IS NOT KARATE…" and out the door she went.

And there are many more teachers that will teach Tai Chi as more of a moving yoga than a martial art. It is, most unfortunately, more lucrative.

I read an article, the authors name escapes me, he was a Chen style practitioner and I believe he is based in Beijing. He said that of all the people in the world today doing Tai Chi only 5% know anything about the martial arts side of it.

However I am sure in NYC there are true Tai Chi Martial Artists, if I hear of any I will let you know.

T

Thanks so much. I followed the links you and pete gave me they really say a lot already. I would like to train in any of the Internal Arts, prefer a teacher that might know Taijiquan, Bagua and Xingyi I know it would be hard but never impossible. You are right in everything you're saying and I feel the same way.