Though it is increasingly for-profit, there are still large non-profit medical centers and systems. The for-profit are often larger, so are buying up the non-profits over time.
Neuralizers
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Steve
Mostly Harmless
There are public facilities, but our healthcare system at large is for profit. It's inherently business. Insurance companies are in it for profit. Pharma is for profit. Hospitals and healthcare facilities are for profit. Unless they are public. Medicaid and medicare are not for profit because they are public. VA hospitals are not for profit because they are public. But they don't change the fact that our healthcare system is "for profit". Thats why we pay more for less than just about anyone else.
Non-profit systems are still businesses. Trust me. I work at a "non-profit" hospital.
Oh, I agree. I've served on the board of a start-up non-profit. It never got off the ground, mostly because the person starting it didn't accept she still had to deal with basic business realities. Non-profit is a somewhat different approach to business, but it still has many of the same concerns.
I suspect a small non-profit may be different, but large ones, with multiple sites around the country and billion dollar revenue streams are absolutely just as focused on the bottom line as "for profit" hospitals.
skribs
Grandmaster
You're assuming that your interpretation of the data is "the truth".
Well that is the problem, I wouldn't want to torture anybody. With the neuralizer which currently only exists in fiction but could become real someday, it does not torture or cause any pain, it just causes people to forget stuff.
jobo
Grandmaster
well not the British health service, the main criticism of of which from " right wingers" is it over pays for everything, takes on mind blowing expensive care for the chronically ill and is very inificiently run, in short it burns through a fabulous amount of money , which they commonly run out of before the year end, whilst still managing to under pay most of their staff, it may fit the heading of a buesnrss, but there's no bottom line considerations
jobo
Grandmaster
well my life would possibly be better if I managed to forget a few things that happened to me, but then I wouldn't be me, as memories are a significant part of who we are stealing them seems again to stealing their identity, and us in many ways worse than torture
Well in MIB the purpose of the nerualizer was to keep their secrets. When the wrong people have the wrong knowledge it can lead to big problems.
jobo
Grandmaster
judging by your last couple of posts you seem to be having a real problem telling Holly wood from reality,
government agents who aren't will smith having the ability to selectively wipe people's minds is the stuff of totalitarian night mares. it may well be possible to do in the not to distant future, that doesn't mean it's a good idea
JR 137
Grandmaster
How do you truly know they haven’t been using a version of it for years?
jobo
Grandmaster
Only to the degree that it's a impossible to truly know anything
JR 137
Grandmaster
Exactly.
We had an employee at a college I used to work at who was pretty whacked out. First time I met him, he tells me “Don’t tell me anything you don’t want the government to know. They bugged me decades ago.” I looked at him and said “You too?” We had an unspoken understanding from then on
My boss told me the first he met him the guy, he walked into the guy’s work area and before my boss could say anything, the guy says “Be careful, there’s a camera in that door lock. They’ve been watching me for years. Don’t do or say anything incriminating.” My boss tiptoed across the room, grabbed the package he was there to pick up, and tiptoed back, hiding his face.
We had fun with the guy. We just couldn’t resist.
We had our theories...
1. Mine was he was the sane one and we were all crazy.
2. My boss thought he was just a paranoid idiot.
3. The other guy who worked directly with us thought it was all a front so he didn’t have to talk to anyone.
2. was too easy. I wasn’t sure if I liked 1 or 3 better. It depended on the day. When I heard he passed away, several years after I stopped working there, the first thing I said was “Are we really sure he’s dead, or did the government finally take him?” Everyone said they were thinking the same thing.
Of what?
ECT. Those basterds
JR 137
Grandmaster
The “flashy thing” as Will Smith called it.
Nope, if you've read my posts properly you will see that I say that stuff such as neuralizers are currently fiction.
I've also been saying it would be nice for them to be real. Not that they are real, just that it would be nice if they. What part don't you understand?
The boldfaced part if your quite is my point exactly.
Now you might be asking why I would want a device like that. Well here is why. Lets say I say something I regret. I say something and I want to take it back. I could just do this-
Saying it and really grasping it are two different things. Maybe, if so many people are asking this question (and I seem to recall several people making the same observation recently) it's something you should think about.
Now you might be asking why I would want a device like that. Well here is why. Lets say I say something I regret. I say something and I want to take it back. I could just do this-[/QUOTE]
Or, you could just do what most adults have learned to do and think before you speak.
Steve
Mostly Harmless
No need to be rude.
