mma is a made up martial art.

[Buka]

Twat.

Dear, God, that looks/sounds so wrong. Made me blush, it did!

 

[Steve]

I wonder what you guys would think about the term "fanny pack."

Here in the USA, it's a pouch you can wear that clips around your waist.

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[drop bear]

I wonder what you guys would think about the term "fanny pack."

Here in the USA, it's a pouch you can wear that clips around your waist.

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and wear around your front so it makes sense. We swear alot as a culture though.

 

[Transk53]

I wonder what you guys would think about the term "fanny pack."

Here in the USA, it's a pouch you can wear that clips around your waist.

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You are safe with that one . Think we termed them "bum bags" over here.

 

[Reeksta]

As a Brit, when you hear Americans talk about a lady having a "big fanny" it's genuinely quite shocking until you realise they just mean bum lol

 

[Dr.Smith]

There's is no confusion. MMA is what it says it is MIXED MARTIAL ARTS. Note the word ARTS, it is not AN art adapting to anything, it is techniques from many styles being used together in on competition. The arts are ones we all know and love therefore there aren't 'new made up' techniques just the adapting of existing techniques for a specific competition.
It is becoming a style with it's amalgamating of techniques, as people train MMA as opposed to single styles. Those of us who were early into MMA didn't have the luxury of being able to train MMA as an entity, we had trained single styles and had to meld them together ourselves.
No, we don't make stuff up as we go along, what we do is find techniques we like for our size, weight, build etc and adapt them to suit us, we discard those techniques we find don't work for us BUT they remain techniques that you will find in martial arts so they will retain the names they had then. An 'abracadabra' kick is a front kick, it will always be a front kick that someone has slightly adapted to make it work better for him, now most people have a kick they think is 'magic' for them, it doesn't mean we all now call that kick 'the magic kick'!

There is nothing new under the sun, the times we've had someone come in and claim they have found a 'new' technique only for them to show us and we say yeah, it's been done before, it may differ slightly but it's not new. there are only so many ways you can actually kcik punch and even grapple. yes people do things a bit different from each other but the techniques are the same whoever is doing it and rarely to be honest do people call things by very different names.

Al this talk of 'crucibles' and 'testing, innovating, creating' etc is publicity speak, what you get from commentators hyping up a fight night. I can tell you now that the techniques we use now would have been used in Pankration way back in Ancient Greece!

Do we make things up as we go along...no. What we do is watch, learn, adapt, see what works, see what doesn't in techniques that come from all and any arts that have been around a long time.

I think you miss the point about what is exciting about MMA. it's not the training, it's the competition against yourself. We train the techniques we know work for us, we have them honed sharp and ready to use, we know our game plan and then we fight, the challenge of getting your opponent where you want them, avoiding them getting you where they want you, thinking tactically while striking, thinking moves ahead when grappling, see if you can take that hit and carry on and more. That's the excitement, the draw and lure of MMA. We used martial arts techniques that people have been using for years, we mix them up and we fight. That's enough, that's excitement, that's life if you love competition and challenging yourself.

It's nonsense to say we make up kicks, we make up strikes because I can tell you for a start in any given fight I can tell you what techniques are used and most likely what style or art they are used in, any competent martial artist can. It does matter what things are called because it allows people to understand what you are talking about....'a vertical roundhouse kick' tells people nothing other than ther is no such thing.

Oh and the 'showtime kick'?.....it's a mawashigeri, a roundhouse kick, that he comes off the cage and spins afterwards doesn't make it anything different. It's not made up at all, the spin at the end? it can be used to go into another technique, a lot of styles can do that.

Wow that was almost the most brilliant MMA post Ive ever heard in my life Sir.
I alway grit my teeth when I hear people talk bad about Hybrid martial arts and then turn around and praise MMA till the sun goes down.
To me all I see in MMA thats so unique or different is the type of people attracted to MMA which are usually the more athletic hard core type of peopleand the whole violence pop fashion that our culture now sports as a result of MMA, other than that Its the same stuff different day in most reguards.

 

[Transk53]

Wow that was almost the most brilliant MMA post Ive ever heard in my life Sir.
I alway grit my teeth when I hear people talk bad about Hybrid martial arts and then turn around and praise MMA till the sun goes down.
To me all I see in MMA thats so unique or different is the type of people attracted to MMA which are usually the more athletic hard core type of peopleand the whole violence pop fashion that our culture now sports as a result of MMA, other than that Its the same stuff different day in most reguards.

Er, that would be a ma'am

 

[drop bear]

Wow that was almost the most brilliant MMA post Ive ever heard in my life Sir.
I alway grit my teeth when I hear people talk bad about Hybrid martial arts and then turn around and praise MMA till the sun goes down.
To me all I see in MMA thats so unique or different is the type of people attracted to MMA which are usually the more athletic hard core type of peopleand the whole violence pop fashion that our culture now sports as a result of MMA, other than that Its the same stuff different day in most reguards.

you don't think the world class martial artists contributing to the development of mma has an effect?

 

[Transk53]

As a Brit, when you hear Americans talk about a lady having a "big fanny" it's genuinely quite shocking until you realise they just mean bum lol

Surely not That is mad considering the meaning over here lol.

 

[Dr.Smith]

you don't think the world class martial artists contributing to the development of mma has an effect?

Ya know Bear to be very honest Ive been doing M.A. for over half my life now, snd if theres one thing about MMA that I can honestly tell you about its the fact that violence sells, and violence entertains. Reread my post though because you must have missed the part where I point out that MMA has attracted athletic participants.

 

[drop bear]

Ya know Bear to be very honest Ive been doing M.A. for over half my life now, snd if theres one thing about MMA that I can honestly tell you about its the fact that violence sells, and violence entertains. Reread my post though because you must have missed the part where I point out that MMA has attracted athletic participants.

athletic participants has a slightly different connotation to what i am getting at. In that the competition attracts some of the worlds best martial artists.

which is why even though the techniques may appear the same. They really are not.

in other words mayweather uses a jab. I use a jab.

it is not the same jab.

 

[Dr.Smith]

athletic participants has a slightly different connotation to what i am getting at. In that the competition attracts some of the worlds best martial artists.

which is why even though the techniques may appear the same. They really are not.

in other words mayweather uses a jab. I use a jab.

Frankly thats really reaching for it. I undderstand you like MMA, I do too, but your going to have to let go of it to really get it. Bro a jab is a jab, just keep it simple ok lols in the end youll realize that.

it is not the same jab.

 

[Dr.Smith]

For some reason my replies arnt posting so bear with me here ok. Well Bear you certainly welcome to your opnion my friend, but from the perspective I have of Martial arts all techniques need to be slightly altered in different situations and for different people. I love MMA I really do, but its alot of hype and violence and pop culture pushes it, I have to be able to ynderstand that fact in order to keep myself grounded.

 

[drop bear]

For some reason my replies arnt posting so bear with me here ok. Well Bear you certainly welcome to your opnion my friend, but from the perspective I have of Martial arts all techniques need to be slightly altered in different situations and for different people. I love MMA I really do, but its alot of hype and violence and pop culture pushes it, I have to be able to ynderstand that fact in order to keep myself grounded.

yes it is a lot of hype an violence. But it also has a much larger talent pool in which to draw from.

this means better fighters. Better instructors and a technically better system.

going back to the mayweather example. His boxing does not just suit his needs. He has a fundamentally better system than i do. So if the choice was learn boxing off me or may weather. You are going to choose him.

 

[Dr.Smith]

yes it is a lot of hype an violence. But it also has a much larger talent pool in which to draw from.

this means better fighters. Better instructors and a technically better system.

going back to the mayweather example. His boxing does not just suit his needs. He has a fundamentally better system than i do. So if the choice was learn boxing off me or may weather. You are going to choose him.

Well Bear your close really really close about this topic but still your argument is more opnion than fact at this point, and I would pick Fred Roach honestly lols.
The thing is that if you really stop and meditate on this point I truely believe it will allow you to see my point much more clearly, I honestly do.
Its not just the fact that M.A have been around so long its the fact that MMA has been around for so long as well...Im trying to help you remember what was said about pancration earlier in this thread.

 

[drop bear]

Well Bear your close really really close about this topic but still your argument is more opnion than fact at this point, and I would pick Fred Roach honestly lols.
The thing is that if you really stop and meditate on this point I truely believe it will allow you to see my point much more clearly, I honestly do.
Its not just the fact that M.A have been around so long its the fact that MMA has been around for so long as well...Im trying to help you remember what was said about pancration earlier in this thread.

yes but we still have the bigger talent pool creating a more refined product.

So yes there were versions of mma before the modern concept. But modern mma has progressed in leaps and bounds from those days.

 

[Dr.Smith]

Lols, well again Bear you do really really well but then blam you ignore the facts in place of your own opnion. Not an insult mind you.
Heres the thing, no one is saying there isnt talent of all kinds in MMA especially the UfC league, In fact we all agree with you. What we are trying to point out to you is that the techniques and base MA systems that make up all MMA systems are old, at least a hunerd years old and in some cases (pancrace) a few thousnd old lols, get the point now???

 

[Paul_D]

As a Brit, when you hear Americans talk about a lady having a "big fanny" it's genuinely quite shocking until you realise they just mean bum lol

It's even better when you're watching The Simpsons with your six year old and Marge talks about having a sore fanny (she falls over I think, can't remember) and then your six your old asks you what a fanny is.

 

[Brian R. VanCise]

A friend of mine today wondered aloud on facebook if MMA is wrongly named. Simply because when you think martial arts you think of more than just the physical techniques. Things like loyalty, integrity, etc. come to mind and his point was that he did not feel that Jon Jones and several others represented martial arts but instead combative entertainment. My friend is a BJJ practitioner just for reference.

 

[Dr.Smith]

Its not wrongly named, it is mixed martial arts. Ive always said that the term MMA was very generic and that the only real use for it in my opnion was for anouncers trying to give a simple explination as to what the s[ectators were watching. Most spectators arnt martial arts savvy enough to understand what all those System names are and it really makes an MMa match boreing to the general public.
I am by no means a traditional Martial artist, Ive done Hybrid and sport martial arts for my entire career with the exception of some Shotokan when I was younger, all that said, I still have to think that the base arts of Karate,Jujitsu,Boxing,Judo,wrestleing and Kick boxing (Savate,Muai whatever) all deserve credit for what they have lent to MMA and that their histories shouldnt be forgotten or made to appear cheap and unworthy just because they didnt have televised matches or set any fashion trends.
And to be clear I love MMA matches, in fact people come over all the time and we watch the fight and have a beer.