Mayweather vs McGregor

[Headhunter]

While praising Bisping this is worth remembering Britain's Michael Bisping calls Luke Rockhold a 'faggot' after UFC title win
Bisping says Sonnen acting gay, Mayhem acting gay


PS he's also racist and a bully. Oh and if you think I wouldn't know that, he had his pro debut on our promotion. he was rubbish.

So what? Does that mean his cardios bad which Is what we're talking about.

He had his pro debut on your promotion??? WOW I never heard that,...apart from the other 100 times you mentioned on every other thread he's mentioned on and look where he is now middleweight champion funny that ai

 

[FighterTwister]

My personal choice for Conor "NOTORIOUS" McGregor in the UFC/ MMA + BOXING Career is to rule both so I support and encourage this and I believe he will do it.

It was one of his statements when making the quote "We are not here to take part but to take over"!

Thats exciting and he has proved that in MMA and now Boxing he can Box and will get better and learn more, simply stated he can fight and knows how to read fights, his not stupid despite public opinion.

Look, I just like this kid, why, I just see myself allot in him, sure we had different upbringing and we come from different nations but he caught my eye back when he fought Marcus Brimage in his UFC debute.

Very impressive, he just read the fight really well as Brimage began to come in posture forward and chin down looking to knock Conor out.

Conor read it, as it worked in Conors favor it was perfect for upper-cuts you can see this clearly in the full fight online that Conor executed mauling Brimage like a Tiger pouncing on its prey.

Damn awesome fight still watch it now and then.

He is also now very determined now because people disrespect his skills he said this in one video I watched.

I can't find it or else I would have posted it.

The kid is good fact his record alone proves that.

 

[Tez3]

So what? Does that mean his cardios bad which Is what we're talking about.

He had his pro debut on your promotion??? WOW I never heard that,...apart from the other 100 times you mentioned on every other thread he's mentioned on and look where he is now middleweight champion funny that ai

Oh dear, you got out of bed the wrong side this morning, of course you forget we have two newbies on this thread. One has to establish one's credentials...if you have them.

I think you missed the point, that it wasn't his cardio that was to blame but his mild head trauma but then I guess one you've made your mind up you don't want to consider anything else. One doesn't have to believe it but it's the mark of the intelligent person that they can think about all causes and possibilities rather than just go with popular belief.

Also it's not brain damage he's always had bad cardio

Are you a doctor specialising in brain trauma and sports injuries then that you can state this categorically? Mmmm thought not.

 

[MA_Student]

My personal choice for Conor "NOTORIOUS" McGregor in the UFC/ MMA + BOXING Career is to rule both so I support and encourage this and I believe he will do it.

It was one of his statements when making the quote "We are not here to take part but to take over"!

Thats exciting and he has proved that in MMA and now Boxing he can Box and will get better and learn more, simply stated he can fight and knows how to read fights, his not stupid despite public opinion.

Look, I just like this kid, why, I just see myself allot in him, sure we had different upbringing and we come from different nations but he caught my eye back when he fought Marcus Brimage in his UFC debute.

Very impressive, he just read the fight really well as Brimage began to come in posture forward and chin down looking to knock Conor out.

Conor read it, as it worked in Conors favor it was perfect for upper-cuts you can see this clearly in the full fight online that Conor executed mauling Brimage like a Tiger pouncing on its prey.

Damn awesome fight still watch it now and then.

He is also now very determined now because people disrespect his skills he said this in one video I watched.

I can't find it or else I would have posted it.

The kid is good fact his record alone proves that.

Taking over means losing your first fight does it? He won't box again and he won't sell that amount again the only reason this was so big was because it was mayweather and even then the venue wasnt filled up. He hasn't even defended one title he's won yet and has shown no interest in doing so. He's already been stripped of one title for refusing to defend. Also brimage isn't a great fighter himself...he's a guy who lost his first fight on the ultimate fighter. I agree he's not stupid he conned millions of people into thinking he had a chance against mayweather and got himself loads of money for a fight he didnt deserve.

He's a good fighter but I'll be more impressed when I see him fight a few more top fighters. In mma he's only fought 2 high level fighters aldo and Alvarez and the aldo fight we don't know if he's better than him he got caught that happens but it doesn't mean he's better skilled. When he beats someone like frankie Edgar or tony ferguson or Kevin lee or khabib then I'll say he's one of the top level fighters.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

Well as ma_student said I'd rather listen to the guy who has a resting heart rate of 34 bpm over the guy who gasses in 2 rounds. Also it's not brain damage he's always had bad cardio he got tired in less than 2 rounds in a fight he had a full camp for against a guy who'd been drinking and smoking the week before

By your original measure (listen to the guy with the better cardio), we should be taking cardio advice from the guy who was drinking and smoking. Realistically, the guy in best shape doesn't always know how he got there. Sometimes, it was the right choices of hard work. Sometimes a large helping of good genetics is the difference. For someone like me, my pulmonary conditioning (what we're really usually talking about when someone gasses) will never be as good as some folks who put in the same effort - I start from a point of exercise-induced asthma. It's not as bad as it once was, but it takes more work for me to get to the same level as folks who start out better equipped.

Note that not knowing how they really got there is not exclusive to sports, and is probably less common there. You can see it in business success, too - people will tell you the one thing that made all the difference, and if you'd just do that one thing, you'll succeed. Then you find 5 people doing that very thing and struggling, because that wasn't really what made the difference. This is a variation of the process that produced what Skinner (psychologist, for those who may not recognize the name) in 1947 termed "superstitious behavior".

 

[FighterTwister]

I was reading this earlier today - Why Did Conor McGregor Gas Out?

Your thoughts guys?

 

[jobo]

Taking over means losing your first fight does it? He won't box again and he won't sell that amount again the only reason this was so big was because it was mayweather and even then the venue wasnt filled up. He hasn't even defended one title he's won yet and has shown no interest in doing so. He's already been stripped of one title for refusing to defend. Also brimage isn't a great fighter himself...he's a guy who lost his first fight on the ultimate fighter. I agree he's not stupid he conned millions of people into thinking he had a chance against mayweather and got himself loads of money for a fight he didnt deserve.

He's a good fighter but I'll be more impressed when I see him fight a few more top fighters. In mma he's only fought 2 high level fighters aldo and Alvarez and the aldo fight we don't know if he's better than him he got caught that happens but it doesn't mean he's better skilled. When he beats someone like frankie Edgar or tony ferguson or Kevin lee or khabib then I'll say he's one of the top level fighters.

the venue was sold out, but a,significant amount of seats went to touts who were trying to shift them for mega bucks and couldn't get the silly money they wanted.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

I was reading this earlier today - Why Did Conor McGregor Gas Out?

Your thoughts guys?

That is well-written and appears well-informed. Some good thoughts to consider for anyone preparing for competition.

 

[Gerry Seymour]

the venue was sold out, but a,significant amount of seats went to touts who were trying to shift them for mega bucks and couldn't get the silly money they wanted.

I was wondering about the reason for so many empty seats, but couldn't be bothered to do a search for it. You've now allowed me to lazily discover an answer! (You are now an enabler, Jobo.)

 

[Tez3]

That is well-written and appears well-informed. Some good thoughts to consider for anyone preparing for competition.

I don't think it's that well informed as John didn't say this. "It's been publicly stated by John Kavanagh (Conor's long time head coach) that somewhere between the Jose Aldo knockout (UFC 194) and the first Nate Diaz fight (UFC 196), Conor lost the work ethic and passion for training that got him into the position he is in today. At one point, Kavanagh said Conor would come to the gym late for training and the two would just walk past each other with no care in the world."

This is what he said...that they drifted apart...
Coach drifted apart from McGregor after UFC 194

 

[jobo]

I don't think it's that well informed as John didn't say this. "It's been publicly stated by John Kavanagh (Conor's long time head coach) that somewhere between the Jose Aldo knockout (UFC 194) and the first Nate Diaz fight (UFC 196), Conor lost the work ethic and passion for training that got him into the position he is in today. At one point, Kavanagh said Conor would come to the gym late for training and the two would just walk past each other with no care in the world."

This is what he said...that they drifted apart...
Coach drifted apart from McGregor after UFC 194

the quote contained in that doesn't say they drifted apart, it just say they drifted, from the context it looks like he meant drifted from doing what they should be doing

 

[Tez3]

the quote contained in that doesn't say they drifted apart, it just say they drifted, from the context it looks like he meant drifted from doing what they should be doing

Quote from article "McGregor’s long time coach, friend and mentor, John Kavanagh, says the two almost drifted apart"

Another quote "No tension," Kavanagh said to Ariel Helwani in studio on The MMA Hour, per MMA Fighting’s Marc Raimondi. "No bad feelings or anything like that. It's just like, ‘Oh, I guess that's how he's doing it now.' He's the champion of the world. He just beat who some say is the best ever in 13 seconds. What am I gonna say?"

Nothing about drifting from what they should be doing.

 

[jobo]

Quote from article "McGregor’s long time coach, friend and mentor, John Kavanagh, says the two almost drifted apart"

Another quote "No tension," Kavanagh said to Ariel Helwani in studio on The MMA Hour, per MMA Fighting’s Marc Raimondi. "No bad feelings or anything like that. It's just like, ‘Oh, I guess that's how he's doing it now.' He's the champion of the world. He just beat who some say is the best ever in 13 seconds. What am I gonna say?"

Nothing about drifting from what they should be doing.

that's ALMOST drifted apart,, which means they didn't actual drift APART.

 

[Tez3]

that's ALMOST drifted apart,, which means they didn't actual drift APART.

Oh sweetie, you would argue that the sky is purple if I said it was blue. First of all you said that's not what it means then you agree but it was 'almost' drifted apart. Ah but you do make me laugh.
The point is that whether they 'nearly' drifted apart or did John didn't say Conor had lost his work ethic. He's not really into slagging people off.

 

[jobo]

Oh sweetie, you would argue that the sky is purple if I said it was blue. First of all you said that's not what it means then you agree but it was 'almost' drifted apart. Ah but you do make me laugh.
The point is that whether they 'nearly' drifted apart or did John didn't say Conor had lost his work ethic. He's not really into slagging people off.

It does say he started turning hours late for training, so that some work ethic lost there

 

[Tez3]

It does say he started turning hours late for training, so that some work ethic lost there

or it could mean that with a new baby his hours changed................

 

[MA_Student]

or it could mean that with a new baby his hours changed................

That was way before he had a kid, he only had his kid after ufc 200 this was between ufc 194 and 196

 

[drop bear]

I was reading this earlier today - Why Did Conor McGregor Gas Out?

Your thoughts guys?

The pacing and timing are different in boxing to MMA. Experience will let you take all these sort if micro rests. When you do something new you don't have that unconscious ability.

 

[drop bear]

It does say he started turning hours late for training, so that some work ethic lost there

Yeah. But you have to ease off the work ethic as you get older. Work hard rest hard.

 

[DaveB]

I was reading this earlier today - Why Did Conor McGregor Gas Out?

Your thoughts guys?

Clearly the martial arts styles he had trained in sucked, otherwise he would have won.