Martial Arts in the Bourne Films

[Transk53]

On UK TV the other night, one channel showed the first two Jason Bourne films. Now in the third, Joey Ansah cites that Capoeira was a major influence for the fight scenes, or at least the final one, and was used from there. From that I pretty much ascertained that a lot of staging went on. From that a thought formed about two things. One was the fighting skills that Matt Damon had to go through, what was the main MA influence. Second would be what standard skill set would a CIA Field Agent (please forgive my ignorance here) have as a fundamental skill set, and of the calibre of a top operative, and probably wet work?

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[Blindside]

The fight choreographer for the Bourne films was Jeff Imada, a Inosanto JKD/Kali practitioner, and he said in the interviews for those films that Kali was the main influence, at least for the Jason Bourne character.

I have no idea what system, if any, that a CIA field operative would receive, quite frankly I suspect it would be pretty basic. I do know of one active field agent who does Kali, but that isn't agency mandated, he does that on his own.

 

[arnisador]

It was indeed the Filipino martial arts featured in the first three films. I don't know what the CIA does.

 

[Dirty Dog]

The CIA is too busy monitoring Capt Bobs porn downloads to mandate any MA training...

 

[Xue Sheng]

I think the CIA trains at Quantico, I have also read they use Krav Maga and Judo, but I have no verification of this so take it for what it is worth

 

[Brian R. VanCise]

Usually agencies of all kinds train in pretty basic stuff. Nothing fancy and certainly nothing awe inspiring!


Jeff Imada was indeed the fight choreographer. Jeet Kune Do/Kali mix for Jason Bourne.

 

[Tgace]

First off...not all "spooks" are field operatives and second any CIA operative doing anything close to what you see in those films would have been selected from a special operations unit of the military. From what I understand few "direct action" types are trained entirely by the CIA.

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[Tgace]

I think the CIA trains at Quantico, I have also read they use Krav Maga and Judo, but I have no verification of this so take it for what it is worth

The CIA trains at a place called "The Farm"...most likely Camp Peary.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camp_Peary

They of course deny it.

 

[frank raud]

I have some old FBI defensive tactics books, but nothing from the CIA. Hmm, time to do a little research. Ps. I doubt much "wetwork" is done from a martial arts base, unless you include gun-fu.

 

[Tgace]

I know..it's Wikipedia but it mirrors a lot of what I have heard for years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special_Activities_Division

SAD/SOG has several hundred officers, mostly former members of special operations forces (SOF) and a majority from the Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).[SUP][30][/SUP] The CIA has also recruited individuals within the agency.[SUP][31][/SUP] The CIA's formal position for these individuals is "Paramilitary Operations Officers" and "Specialized Skills Officers." Paramilitary Operations Officers attend the Clandestine Service Trainee (CST) program, which trains them as clandestine intelligence operatives (i.e. "spies"; known as "Core Collectors" within the Agency). The primary strengths of SAD/SOG Paramilitary Officers are operational agility, adaptability, and deniability. They often operate in small teams, typically made up of six operators (with some operations being carried out by a single officer), all with extensive military special operations expertise and a set of specialized skills that does not exist in any other unit.[SUP][7][/SUP] As fully trained intelligence case officers (i.e. spies), Paramilitary Operations Officers possess all the clandestine skills to collect human intelligence—and most importantly—to recruit assets from among the indigenous troops receiving their training. These officers often operate in remote locations behind enemy lines to carry out direct action (including raids and sabotage), counter-intelligence, guerrilla/ unconventional warfare, counter-terrorism, and hostage rescue missions, in addition to being able to conduct espionage via HUMINT assets

They are hiring BTW:

https://www.cia.gov/careers/opportu...tions-officer-specialized-skills-officer.html

Minimum requirements for Paramilitary Operations Officers include a bachelor's degree, military special operations or combat arms experience (ground, air or maritime), as well as combat leadership experience. Previous foreign travel and foreign language proficiency is highly valued. For Specialized Skills Officers, minimum requirements also include a bachelor's degree. A background in aviation, maritime, military psychological warfare and/or information operations, as well as communications, business and counterintelligence are preferred. The 35-year maximum age requirement can be waived on a case-by-case basis

 

[Transk53]

I have some old FBI defensive tactics books, but nothing from the CIA. Hmm, time to do a little research. Ps. I doubt much "wetwork" is done from a martial arts base, unless you include gun-fu.

Put wet work as in someone whom is highly trained. Was not sure what other term to use. Thanks for the replies everbody, some interesting stuff.

 

[frank raud]

Put wet work as in someone whom is highly trained. Was not sure what other term to use. Thanks for the replies everbody, some interesting stuff.

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Wetwork or wet work is a euphemism for murder or assassination, alluding to spilling blood. The expression "wet work", as well as the similar "wet job", "wet affair" or "wet operation", are all calques of the euphemism used by the KGB for such activities, mokroye delo (wet job).[SUP][1][/SUP] These operations are reputed to have been handled at the KGB by Spetsbureau 13, colorfully known as the "Department of wet affairs" (Otdel mokrykh del).[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] Assassins are referred to as "wet boys".
The Russian expression "wet job" (мокрое дел&#1086 can be traced to at least the 19th century[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] from Russian criminal slang (fenya, muzyka) and originally meant robbery that involved murder, i.e., spilling blood.

 

[Transk53]

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Wetwork or wet work is a euphemism for murder or assassination, alluding to spilling blood. The expression "wet work", as well as the similar "wet job", "wet affair" or "wet operation", are all calques of the euphemism used by the KGB for such activities, mokroye delo (wet job).[SUP][1][/SUP] These operations are reputed to have been handled at the KGB by Spetsbureau 13, colorfully known as the "Department of wet affairs" (Otdel mokrykh del).[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][3][/SUP] Assassins are referred to as "wet boys".
The Russian expression "wet job" (мокрое дел&#1086 can be traced to at least the 19th century[SUP][4][/SUP][SUP][5][/SUP] from Russian criminal slang (fenya, muzyka) and originally meant robbery that involved murder, i.e., spilling blood.

These operations are reputed to have been handled at the KGB by Spetsbureau 13, colorfully known as the "Department of wet affairs"

Cool beans! Silly me, did not think it was an euphemism, thought it was a umbrella of sorts. Department of wet affairs, colourful indeed