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Matt Stone said:It is this approach to Taijiquan that is the primary contributing factor to its ongoing decline as a reputable, respectable martial art.
Matt Stone said:If you want to stretch and become more flexible, don't dilute another art to do it... Try stretching and flexibility exercises.
Matt Stone said:Taijiquan, regardless of style, is an art intended for fighting, not for developing your inner peace loving hippie.![]()
pete said:as dr chapel has said, kenpo is tai chi.
Matt Stone said:...having spoken with quite a few people from Hung Ga and Kenpo backgrounds (who all say that Kenpo stemmed from Hung Ga in the first place), I simply can't see how Hung Ga -> Kenpo = Taiji.
Tony said:Well I basically thought that Tai Chi would help me to relax... my forms need a lot of work
pete said:Not having trained in Hung Ga, i can't comment.
The history of Kenpo, as i understand, stems from Chuan Fa which is the purely martial component of Tai Chi Chuan.
Just as some may experience a lack of "Chuan" or "yang" in their Tai Chi, I've experienced a lack of the internal, "yin" elements in my Kenpo...
and since the two arts are derived from the same source, the principles are complimentary.
again, Tony, i am not in a position to comment on Kung Fu, but please remember that learning an art like Tai Chi will require dedication, time and practice... which will translate into time not spent practicing your Kung Fu forms, and possibly regressing a bit.
Matt Stone said:I haven't trained in it either... Yet. There is a school nearby that I am likely going to join in September (funds are committed right now, but I can afford it after August).
Chuan Fa is a seperate art... Taijiquan is Taijiquan, and all of its components are purely martial... It is the watering down of Taijiquan by alleged "instructors" who haven't the foggiest notion of how to apply Taijiquan for fighting, or worse yet the ones that think it is solely a fitness/health regime, that makes people consider using it as some kind of training adjunct.
What do you mean by this? A lack of "chuan?" Please, stick to English. The Asian language terms of martial arts are so poorly understood and mistranslated that perhaps staying away from them entirely is a good idea to keep this conversation going...
Again, I have only viewed Kenpo, but from what I've seen it looks absolutely nothing like Taijiquan in application and practice...
Nicely played. I am still trying to understand how learning another art, another discipline entirely, one that is completely different from the one currently being trained (and I'm still wondering what kind of "kung fu" Tony is studying... That's like saying "I play sports," or "I drive vehicles." What kind???), is necessarily going to help Tony develop his abilities in the former art...
"I'm studying Taekwondo so my wrestling will be better." The logic fails entirely.
It is the watering down of Taijiquan by alleged "instructors" who haven't the foggiest notion - Matt Stone