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Dave Fulton
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Mr. Rousselot
I would like you to show me where in my last post I resorted to character assassination. Other than that, I have only posted 3 times in this thread.
My first post: Was in response to Pyros, where I offered some clarification regarding the connection between some of Hobbs Sensei's rank certificates. No character assassination there.
My second post: Was my response to two very derogatory posts about Hobbs Sensei that you made. In that post I stated that my perception, based upon the tone of your two posts, was that you were going to turn the thread into a pi$$ing match and that I was not interested in participating in it. This was an observation that I made based upon past experience with how the type of posts that you had made affect discussion on forums. I also brought up the apparent inconsistency on your web site which, as I have already tried to explain in two previous posts, was to make a point that if one sees an apparent inconsistency, they should check the facts (including seeking clarification) instead of bad mouthing the person. I also advised you to use caution because there are people who will bring suit at the drop of a hat (a pain in the neck that no one really wants to deal with). No character assassination there.
My third post: Was to Mr. Byrd, in which my intent was to advise him not to worry about your comments. I said that your approach of making unsubstantiated accusations, while admitting that you were unwilling to review any evidence that runs contrary to your opinion, was more damaging to your own reputation than anyone else's. You had in fact been making accusations without checking the facts of the case in question and that you were hurting yourself more than anyone was my opinion from personal observations of past situations. I think it was you who said "People are allowed to state their opinion on the Internet or anywhere." So, no character assassination there. However, in this post I also said:
"Unfortunately, there will always be people like Mr. Rousselot out there and they are a complete waste of time in my opinion. In a way I pity them."
Now here is the only place where I will concede that my statements could be misconstrued as character assassination. However, it was not my intention and for that I apologize. I referred to you directly instead of the behavior that you had exhibited, which is what I was actually speaking of. When people make derogatory comments, like the ones that you made, right off the bat and then openly refuse to review any evidence offered to them, it has been my experience that they do more to put themselves in a bad light than who or whatever they are speaking against. I sort of pity those people because they may have the best of intentions and may be correct, but their behavior prevents people from listening to their message and as a result, they hurt their own cause.
Oh, but you did presume to "tell me the contents of (my) house" because you had already presumed that I do not read, speak or write the Japanese language.
Saying that you seem to have a lot of hostility was a personal observation, an opinion. I think it was you who said "People are allowed to state their opinion on the Internet or anywhere." As for the "Unfortunately, there will always be people ...", I have already addressed that above and apologized, but again ... I apologize if you misunderstood what I was trying to say. However, IF I did think that you AS A PERSON are a waste of time, then that would be my personal opinion, which I would be entitled to state .... by your own admission.
Once again, this has taken more of my time than I would have liked it to, so I will end here.
I sincerely wish you the best in the future.
Respectfully,
Dave Fulton
Originally posted by RyuShiKan
You were doing it then and are doing it now with this long rant of yours that has nothing to do with the topic at hand. You had little ground to stand on then to support your point of view just as you have little ground now.
I would like you to show me where in my last post I resorted to character assassination. Other than that, I have only posted 3 times in this thread.
My first post: Was in response to Pyros, where I offered some clarification regarding the connection between some of Hobbs Sensei's rank certificates. No character assassination there.
My second post: Was my response to two very derogatory posts about Hobbs Sensei that you made. In that post I stated that my perception, based upon the tone of your two posts, was that you were going to turn the thread into a pi$$ing match and that I was not interested in participating in it. This was an observation that I made based upon past experience with how the type of posts that you had made affect discussion on forums. I also brought up the apparent inconsistency on your web site which, as I have already tried to explain in two previous posts, was to make a point that if one sees an apparent inconsistency, they should check the facts (including seeking clarification) instead of bad mouthing the person. I also advised you to use caution because there are people who will bring suit at the drop of a hat (a pain in the neck that no one really wants to deal with). No character assassination there.
My third post: Was to Mr. Byrd, in which my intent was to advise him not to worry about your comments. I said that your approach of making unsubstantiated accusations, while admitting that you were unwilling to review any evidence that runs contrary to your opinion, was more damaging to your own reputation than anyone else's. You had in fact been making accusations without checking the facts of the case in question and that you were hurting yourself more than anyone was my opinion from personal observations of past situations. I think it was you who said "People are allowed to state their opinion on the Internet or anywhere." So, no character assassination there. However, in this post I also said:
"Unfortunately, there will always be people like Mr. Rousselot out there and they are a complete waste of time in my opinion. In a way I pity them."
Now here is the only place where I will concede that my statements could be misconstrued as character assassination. However, it was not my intention and for that I apologize. I referred to you directly instead of the behavior that you had exhibited, which is what I was actually speaking of. When people make derogatory comments, like the ones that you made, right off the bat and then openly refuse to review any evidence offered to them, it has been my experience that they do more to put themselves in a bad light than who or whatever they are speaking against. I sort of pity those people because they may have the best of intentions and may be correct, but their behavior prevents people from listening to their message and as a result, they hurt their own cause.
Originally posted by RyuShiKan
With out provication? ..hmmm let me see.
I wouldnt dream of telling you the contents of your house and would look like an idiot doing so unless I had actually been there. Kind of like you 2 telling me about those certificates without actually know what they say or the difference between a fake and a real one. Like I said they could have been menus from a sushi bar for all you know.
Oh, but you did presume to "tell me the contents of (my) house" because you had already presumed that I do not read, speak or write the Japanese language.
Originally posted by RyuShiKan
Then you start with a character assassination of me by saying I am angry and Unfortunately, there will always be people like Mr. Rousselot out there and they are a complete waste of time in my opinion. and how you pity them. Thats not character assassination? This was your attempt to try and discredit me be trying to make me out to be the bad guy.
Saying that you seem to have a lot of hostility was a personal observation, an opinion. I think it was you who said "People are allowed to state their opinion on the Internet or anywhere." As for the "Unfortunately, there will always be people ...", I have already addressed that above and apologized, but again ... I apologize if you misunderstood what I was trying to say. However, IF I did think that you AS A PERSON are a waste of time, then that would be my personal opinion, which I would be entitled to state .... by your own admission.
Once again, this has taken more of my time than I would have liked it to, so I will end here.
I sincerely wish you the best in the future.
Respectfully,
Dave Fulton