Keeping students in the age of Covid

Unless the student and teacher are both streaming at 100+ fps you won't see any subtleties.
Is that all that you are worried about? That's an easy fix. Not even close to a game-ender. Your biggest challenge isn't going to be camera

I think thereā€™s more value than that in some situations. Certainly where thereā€™s some experience for the student, thereā€™s room for input, and 100 FPS isnā€™t necessary unless youā€™re trying to view full-speed movement.
I've only found it helpful when I want to play things back at a slower speed. Things like sparring. Most smart phones do 60fps and higher easily. Then there's the question of how much a person is capable of seeing in person. There's a limit to how much we can see in fps. If you can't see 100fps in person with your own eyes, then it doesn't matter if a camera sees 100fps or higher unless you are trying to see things in slow motion.

The only reason I ever wanted a camera with high FPS is because I wanted film something in slow motion without creating blurs when played in slow motion. But that's not an option with my own eyes.
 
I think thereā€™s more value than that in some situations. Certainly where thereā€™s some experience for the student, thereā€™s room for input, and 100 FPS isnā€™t necessary unless youā€™re trying to view full-speed movement.
The videos of me sparring were shot with an SG4 (2013 phone camera tech). This means that todays camera video and webcam quality won't be worse than that unless the Internet connection is really bad.
 
How are other schools managing retention in the age of covid? We lost a lot of students and haven't gained any new ones in almost a year which has never happened before. I can't lower our rates any more without it resulting in closing our doors but many of our students are leaving because they can't afford it anymore, a few have left because they don't want to wear a mask and said they will come back when Covid is under control. Since last February we have lost over 50% of our students due to financial reasons or health concerns. Has anyone else run into similar problems? any tips on how to manage this?
Thanks.
P.S. located in USA in the northern Midwest.

That's rough. We lost about 40% of our students in the first few months of covid, and have had some more quit since, but we've had enough growth since then that we're "only" down about 25% over where we were a year ago.

Are you offering Zoom classes for students who aren't comfortable coming in? That's been a big help for us. Yeah, it's not the same as in-person classes, since they can usually only work with somebody who lives with them, if they even have that. But it's better than nothing. It lets the students get some practice in, and it offers them a social outlet and sense of normality. (It also means that we have a bunch of parents that have been training with their kids for free for a while and are clearly enjoying themselves, and I think that at least some of them will sign up as regular students once they get the vaccine. Edit: we've also had a couple kids sign up after watching their parent take class over Zoom from home!)

If your students genuinely can't afford it anymore because they got laid off or whatever.... that's a harder hurdle. Around here, there's a pretty big medical manufacturing/biotech sector and a lot of teachers, nurses, first responders, IT workers, etc, so the economy hasn't taken as big of a hit as in some places.
 
If your students genuinely can't afford it anymore because they got laid off or whatever.... that's a harder hurdle.
Once a job is lost, a person will cancel anything that isn't necessary. I've been through 2 lay offs and it was always the same. response, spend less money, look for work, stop subscription and membership services. Oh and no unnecessary traveling in the car. Not much can be done about those situations except wish them the best and tell them to keep in touch.

There's nothing fun about no job and no money. An online component may be standard for everyone, even for barber shops. (making appointments online). I'm pretty sure martial arts will go the same way.
 
Once a job is lost, a person will cancel anything that isn't necessary. I've been through 2 lay offs and it was always the same. response, spend less money, look for work, stop subscription and membership services. Oh and no unnecessary traveling in the car. Not much can be done about those situations except wish them the best and tell them to keep in touch.

There's nothing fun about no job and no money. An online component may be standard for everyone, even for barber shops. (making appointments online). I'm pretty sure martial arts will go the same way.
Okay, outside of purchasing consumables please explain how an online barber shop will work?
The true barber shops (not beauty salon's) around here have little to no consumable sales.
 
That's rough. We lost about 40% of our students in the first few months of covid, and have had some more quit since, but we've had enough growth since then that we're "only" down about 25% over where we were a year ago.

Are you offering Zoom classes for students who aren't comfortable coming in? That's been a big help for us. Yeah, it's not the same as in-person classes, since they can usually only work with somebody who lives with them, if they even have that. But it's better than nothing. It lets the students get some practice in, and it offers them a social outlet and sense of normality. (It also means that we have a bunch of parents that have been training with their kids for free for a while and are clearly enjoying themselves, and I think that at least some of them will sign up as regular students once they get the vaccine. Edit: we've also had a couple kids sign up after watching their parent take class over Zoom from home!)

If your students genuinely can't afford it anymore because they got laid off or whatever.... that's a harder hurdle. Around here, there's a pretty big medical manufacturing/biotech sector and a lot of teachers, nurses, first responders, IT workers, etc, so the economy hasn't taken as big of a hit as in some places.
Are most of your students set up on EBT? I see this working with Zoom classes from a financial standpoint.
It gets tenuous sometimes but there are certain students who more than pay for themselves just with their presence. You have to really, really be careful with the relationship. I can only think of one or two actual issues I ever had with folks like that. They just are not going to take advantage of the relationship. And man oh man do they make classes better.
 
Okay, outside of purchasing consumables please explain how an online barber shop will work?
The true barber shops (not beauty salon's) around here have little to no consumable sales.
How online barbershops work.
Barber Appointment App, Scheduling & Reminders Software - FREE Trial!

Atlanta Barber | Cumming Barber Shop | Roswell Hair Salon | Alpharetta Haircut | Milton | Woodstock | American Barbers

https://www.csbarbershop.com/single-post/2017/04/05/book-online-at-chuck-simons-barbershop

This is not a new concept. Many of the larger barbershop chains have been online for a while now.

The true barber shops (not beauty salon's) around here have little to no consumable sales.
All the poor barbers only cut hair. The one who are out to make a lot of money will sell hair and skin products as well. Having more than one service or product generating sales is a must.

This is a True Barbershop. That shelf on the left contains hair care products that a customer can use. By having an online component, a barber will still have the opportunity to do business with their customers, even if their customers aren't close enough to come in for a hair cut. Things like moving out of the area means that a person is less likely to continue to get their hair cut at that location. This means the barber loses a customer. Automating booking so that you can get more people in without everyone coming in at the same time makes sense, saves time and makes the entire experience a better one. It is also scalable for when you have those days a barber can't make it in.


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#6 on running a successful barber shop
Build a website for your barber shop and collect basic customer data, including email addresses. Send out a newsletter to your costumers once every few weeks with informative beauty tips and valuable coupons. This will draw customers back to your shop, while giving them the sense that they are truly getting their money's worth.

There are tones of barber organizations and websites that talk about the value of selling additional products inside a barbershop. So even if you cannot physically open up shop you can still sell products. 24/7 online to customers who trust you.
 
The true barber shops (not beauty salon's) around here have little to no consumable sales.
If they were to just think outside the box a little, they would be able to sell products, not only sale products but generate business deals with companies that sell hair care products and other related products. Set up a nice display tv in a barbershop and run ad space for these companies and their products. Have a website? Do the same thing?

Not having consumables for sales is a choice. Barbers choose to do or they don't. When I was a teen the barber used to sell a lot of stuff in their barbershop. One year I went and they were trying to sell direct TV services. While that's not what I would go for today. It was when Satellite TV was hot. Sometimes people would walk in trying to sell jewelry and gold chains. lol. My point is if there is a worth while opportunity to generate additional income then a business should take it. A business should also take into consideration about how that money comes in. Does it only come in when people come in or can you generate income in other ways, other than just when people show up..
 
How online barbershops work.
Barber Appointment App, Scheduling & Reminders Software - FREE Trial!

Atlanta Barber | Cumming Barber Shop | Roswell Hair Salon | Alpharetta Haircut | Milton | Woodstock | American Barbers

https://www.csbarbershop.com/single-post/2017/04/05/book-online-at-chuck-simons-barbershop

This is not a new concept. Many of the larger barbershop chains have been online for a while now.


All the poor barbers only cut hair. The one who are out to make a lot of money will sell hair and skin products as well. Having more than one service or product generating sales is a must.

This is a True Barbershop. That shelf on the left contains hair care products that a customer can use. By having an online component, a barber will still have the opportunity to do business with their customers, even if their customers aren't close enough to come in for a hair cut. Things like moving out of the area means that a person is less likely to continue to get their hair cut at that location. This means the barber loses a customer. Automating booking so that you can get more people in without everyone coming in at the same time makes sense, saves time and makes the entire experience a better one. It is also scalable for when you have those days a barber can't make it in.


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#6 on running a successful barber shop
Build a website for your barber shop and collect basic customer data, including email addresses. Send out a newsletter to your costumers once every few weeks with informative beauty tips and valuable coupons. This will draw customers back to your shop, while giving them the sense that they are truly getting their money's worth.

There are tones of barber organizations and websites that talk about the value of selling additional products inside a barbershop. So even if you cannot physically open up shop you can still sell products. 24/7 online to customers who trust you.
Making online appointments could not be farther from an 'online barbershop'. There is still a physical brick and mortar presence that requires a person to go to the location to get service.

That is one example of a hair salon, not a 'true barbershop', at least not in the southeast US.
 
Making online appointments could not be farther from an 'online barbershop'.
It's not farther, it's just that you have a narrow scope of what makes something online. Here's an example.

Ordering food online. When you order a pizza online you are still ordering a pizza online. You choose what pizza you want online, you order online, and you have the option to pay online. Just because the pizza isn't made online does not make it an online business. A business doesn't have to be completely online in order to be considered as online. It only needs to have an Online function. This is not an "Either Or" issue where you have to be 100% online or 100% offline.

Even places without physical stores still have physical components of business such as shipping, manufacturing, and distribution. For example, NETFLIX still ships DVDs. A physical component that requires shipping and distribution. DVD's may seem out dated, but you can't see a lot of the newer movies unless it's on DVD. That won't change until DVD become obsolete.

If you reduce everything to "Either, Or" then you'll limit you limit yourself and the opportunities that exist. So, while people are able to keep their martial arts schools open by using Online functions, You will be going out of business because you feel that things have to be "Either, Or"

That is one example of a hair salon, not a 'true barbershop', at least not in the southeast US.
Again. putting things into an "Either, Or" box.
"Hair Salon are not a "True barbershop."

Lets see what's professionally recognized as a barbershop.

Barber Schools and License Requirements in Georgia
Georgia | American Barber Association

Your initial step toward a Georgia barber license is to graduate from a Georgia barber college. The Georgia State Board of Barbers requires that your school provide at least 1500 hours of specialized training. Board-required courses include the following:

Theory (280 hours)

Theory ā€“ 50 hours
Hair and Scalp Treatments ā€“ 25 hours
Hairstyling Techniques, Styling and Cutting ā€“ 70 hours
Shaving ā€“ 25 hours
Coloring of Hair ā€“ 25 hours
Facial Hair Design and Waxing ā€“ 20 hours
Permanent Waving, Relaxing, and Chemical Application ā€“ 65 hours
Clinical Services (1220 hours)

Theory ā€“ 200 hours
Hairstyling Techniques and Cutting ā€“ 500 hours
Shaving ā€“ 25 hours
Shampooing ā€“ 5 hours
Facial Hair Design and Waxing ā€“ 10 hours
Scalp Treatment Techniques ā€“ 10 hours
Permanent Waving ā€“ 270 hours
Additional Instruction ā€“ 200 hours

Top Ten Tips to Make Six Figures as a Barber ( I put this here because it applies to Martial arts)
Ten Tips to Make Six Figures as a Barber

Tip# 1 Donā€™t Underestimate Yourself (this is you)
Tip# 7 Stop Looking Down on Retail (this is you)

"For some reason, barbers tend to think selling retail products is some kind of cop-outā€”like you stop being a barber and start becoming a pushy salesman just because you try to get a client to invest in some styling gel.

You know, we get it to some extent, but if you want to make some passive-style income, you need to stop thinking of retail as a no-go and start thinking of it as a promising opportunity. "
Tip# 8 Step Out Of Your Comfort Zone (this is you)
"This is solid advice in anything you do in life, but we especially think itā€™s useful when it comes to barbering. Your trade is amazing because it is fluidā€”nothing is stagnant and though some things never go out of style, rarely do things stay the same.

If youā€™re too scared to step out of your normal services, trends, and specialties, you could be missing out on some serious opportunities. Stop being afraid to offer services that cater to new fads, to try new things, to think outside the box."

Tip# 9 Work Smarter, Not MORE (this is you)
You donā€™t have to work yourself to the bone every single day, every moment youā€™re awake to make the money you wantā€”you just need to work smarter.

Salons are often ran by women who maximize their income opportunity, while small barbers will often pass up opportunities to maximize theirs. If you can only see things as "Either , Or" then you'll limit opportunities that could make things easier for you. Similar to how restaurants that had existing carryout and online functions weren't hit as hard as those who only hand in-person dining."
 
It's not farther, it's just that you have a narrow scope of what makes something online. Here's an example.

Ordering food online. When you order a pizza online you are still ordering a pizza online. You choose what pizza you want online, you order online, and you have the option to pay online. Just because the pizza isn't made online does not make it an online business. A business doesn't have to be completely online in order to be considered as online. It only needs to have an Online function. This is not an "Either Or" issue where you have to be 100% online or 100% offline.

Even places without physical stores still have physical components of business such as shipping, manufacturing, and distribution. For example, NETFLIX still ships DVDs. A physical component that requires shipping and distribution. DVD's may seem out dated, but you can't see a lot of the newer movies unless it's on DVD. That won't change until DVD become obsolete.

If you reduce everything to "Either, Or" then you'll limit you limit yourself and the opportunities that exist. So, while people are able to keep their martial arts schools open by using Online functions, You will be going out of business because you feel that things have to be "Either, Or"


Again. putting things into an "Either, Or" box.
"Hair Salon are not a "True barbershop."

Lets see what's professionally recognized as a barbershop.

Barber Schools and License Requirements in Georgia
Georgia | American Barber Association

Your initial step toward a Georgia barber license is to graduate from a Georgia barber college. The Georgia State Board of Barbers requires that your school provide at least 1500 hours of specialized training. Board-required courses include the following:

Theory (280 hours)

Theory ā€“ 50 hours
Hair and Scalp Treatments ā€“ 25 hours
Hairstyling Techniques, Styling and Cutting ā€“ 70 hours
Shaving ā€“ 25 hours
Coloring of Hair ā€“ 25 hours
Facial Hair Design and Waxing ā€“ 20 hours
Permanent Waving, Relaxing, and Chemical Application ā€“ 65 hours
Clinical Services (1220 hours)

Theory ā€“ 200 hours
Hairstyling Techniques and Cutting ā€“ 500 hours
Shaving ā€“ 25 hours
Shampooing ā€“ 5 hours
Facial Hair Design and Waxing ā€“ 10 hours
Scalp Treatment Techniques ā€“ 10 hours
Permanent Waving ā€“ 270 hours
Additional Instruction ā€“ 200 hours

Top Ten Tips to Make Six Figures as a Barber ( I put this here because it applies to Martial arts)
Ten Tips to Make Six Figures as a Barber

Tip# 1 Donā€™t Underestimate Yourself (this is you)
Tip# 7 Stop Looking Down on Retail (this is you)

"For some reason, barbers tend to think selling retail products is some kind of cop-outā€”like you stop being a barber and start becoming a pushy salesman just because you try to get a client to invest in some styling gel.

You know, we get it to some extent, but if you want to make some passive-style income, you need to stop thinking of retail as a no-go and start thinking of it as a promising opportunity. "
Tip# 8 Step Out Of Your Comfort Zone (this is you)
"This is solid advice in anything you do in life, but we especially think itā€™s useful when it comes to barbering. Your trade is amazing because it is fluidā€”nothing is stagnant and though some things never go out of style, rarely do things stay the same.

If youā€™re too scared to step out of your normal services, trends, and specialties, you could be missing out on some serious opportunities. Stop being afraid to offer services that cater to new fads, to try new things, to think outside the box."

Tip# 9 Work Smarter, Not MORE (this is you)
You donā€™t have to work yourself to the bone every single day, every moment youā€™re awake to make the money you wantā€”you just need to work smarter.

Salons are often ran by women who maximize their income opportunity, while small barbers will often pass up opportunities to maximize theirs. If you can only see things as "Either , Or" then you'll limit opportunities that could make things easier for you. Similar to how restaurants that had existing carryout and online functions weren't hit as hard as those who only hand in-person dining."
Again, ordering a pizza and having it delivered could not be more different. Surely you get this.
I really, really don't need the sales pitch and there is no new lesson here. It is coming off shallow at best and reeks of you not being big enough to admit you are patently wrong.
It is okay; we have all been there.
 
Again, ordering a pizza and having it delivered could not be more different. Surely you get this.
I really, really don't need the sales pitch and there is no new lesson here. It is coming off shallow at best and reeks of you not being big enough to admit you are patently wrong.
It is okay; we have all been there.
I don't have problems with being wrong. On more than one occasion on this site, I've apologized when I have offended someone unintentionally, I have admitted that I was wrong, and I have even thanks Jobo personally in public for correcting me.

This doesn't have anything to do about me being Wrong. If fact 2 people have already given you examples of how they used online classes for martial arts. Your issue is that you think ONLINE means that everything is done online and that there are no Offline operations and you would be incorrect about that.

There are very few businesses that are 100% online. If you sell products online then there's an offline component to it. Even if you sell digital products, there is an offline component to it. Right now, today. I can walk into a physical store and purchase a digital software. Photoshop, Camtasia, Video Games, Microsoft Office. I can literally go into a store, make a purchase of digital product without ever logging into a website, or even having the store log in for me. I walk out with a physical product which I would use to download the digital product at home.

Like I said you put make things "Either Or" For you it's not a "Barbershop" It's a "True Barbershop" The other's aren't considered a "Barbershop" because they do more than a "True Babershop" Your thinking about keeping martial arts students follows the same path. A martial art school can't do Online Classes because then it won't make them a "Real Martial Art school" Does that sound like something that runs through your head.
 
Again, ordering a pizza and having it delivered could not be more different. Surely you get this.
I really, really don't need the sales pitch and there is no new lesson here. It is coming off shallow at best and reeks of you not being big enough to admit you are patently wrong.
It is okay; we have all been there.
I didn't see anywhere he referred to a barber shop being entirely virtual. He referred to it as having an online presence. A barber shop should be online, and probably should sell some product online, but doesn't have to be exclusively online to do either of those.
 
I didn't see anywhere he referred to a barber shop being entirely virtual. He referred to it as having an online presence. A barber shop should be online, and probably should sell some product online, but doesn't have to be exclusively online to do either of those.
Online ordering/scheduling/reservations are an extension of our highly integrated world that have been around much longer than the current virus situation. It is not a basic definition of the business to me. It does not define the product but the offering. In the pillars of business quotient these are two very critical thing that should never be confused although this seems to be what is happening.
We use online signup and self attendance tracking. Each student has an account to access for billing/pricing/equipment and such. These things in no way identify our product. If you told a person just the few things I mentioned they would have l no idea what kind of business it is.

Circling back to video classes, as I said earlier they have their place. But as any smart,logical business owner understands, presenting online classes as anything remotely close to tactile classes is a recipe for disaster down the road. And it doesnā€™t just affect the one school, it affects them all. Honestly, I fear we will not recognize martial arts 20 years from now if we do not preserve it.
 
I don't have problems with being wrong. On more than one occasion on this site, I've apologized when I have offended someone unintentionally, I have admitted that I was wrong, and I have even thanks Jobo personally in public for correcting me.

This doesn't have anything to do about me being Wrong. If fact 2 people have already given you examples of how they used online classes for martial arts. Your issue is that you think ONLINE means that everything is done online and that there are no Offline operations and you would be incorrect about that.

There are very few businesses that are 100% online. If you sell products online then there's an offline component to it. Even if you sell digital products, there is an offline component to it. Right now, today. I can walk into a physical store and purchase a digital software. Photoshop, Camtasia, Video Games, Microsoft Office. I can literally go into a store, make a purchase of digital product without ever logging into a website, or even having the store log in for me. I walk out with a physical product which I would use to download the digital product at home.

Like I said you put make things "Either Or" For you it's not a "Barbershop" It's a "True Barbershop" The other's aren't considered a "Barbershop" because they do more than a "True Babershop" Your thinking about keeping martial arts students follows the same path. A martial art school can't do Online Classes because then it won't make them a "Real Martial Art school" Does that sound like something that runs through your head.
Yes. Yes it does.
I have understood all along that I am thinking of the whole business model more binary. But I have tried to separate my comments from this thinking and instead think of them how I believe the OP will hear your comments.
I assume you already know your comments (aka, the pitch) leave more questions than answers. Aka, the up sale.
We have all seen the random person get on this site and try to sell something. It is usually recognized quite quickly and they get little to no response.
No, I donā€™t think you are that guy but I have heard a lot of the same stuff. Simply put superficial ideas without depth lead to more failures than successes.

To the OP; I would have to say the best way to ride out this virus storm is to have had your emergency fund in place. Since this thing has protracted having this fund would speak volumes to your landlords and bankers. I doubt many people have/had enough EF to carry them through but hopefully enough to fund an a action plan once thing became a little clearer.
 
Just to add some fuel for thought on where this thread has wandered. For schools of any size that have a significant component of either striking or forms (or both), it seems to me that offering online classes, virtual instruction, and/or recorded material is a way to do the best you can for the folks who want to keep training. For those who are grappling-based, there's probably still some opportunity to offer some drills that folks can do to maintain what they can during this time, even if it's just exercises and movements made into exercises (monster walk, shrimping, falls/rolls, etc.) - again either in virual classes or via recorded video. In both cases it's definitely not the same as being in-person, but it's something.
 
I fear we will not recognize martial arts 20 years from now if we do not preserve it.
My personal hope is that folks in 20 years aren't doing what I'm doing - even folks I've trained. I hope it has evolved as folks find better approaches for both application and training. If it becomes unrecognizable, I'm not concerned about that. I seriously doubt MA are going to evolve that quickly (for either the good or the bad) though.
 
It is not a basic definition of the business to me.
FedEx is a good example. They still have to physically pick up packages. Packages can't be sent through the Internet. But they still use an Online business format to serve customers even though their major task of delivering packages happens offline. No one says Fed Ex isn't an online business. Any business without an online function is at a disadvantage. The pandemic has made that painfully clear as a lot of small businesses without an online function to provide services and or products couldn't even operate without it.

It is not a basic definition of the business to me
During the early years of the Internet Online Business was defined as exclusively online. That definition is in accurate and has changed since then as the reality is that there are very few exclusively online businesses. Most businesses that are online are hybrid businesses with a physical component and an online component. Literally if you have a website that your customers used to reach out to you either by phone, email, or live chat then you have an online business. The reason is because the website is used for communicating with potential customers and serves as a marketing function. So it doesn't take much to be an online business. Using a website to schedule appointments is an function of business carried online. Look it up.

We use online signup and self attendance tracking. Each student has an account to access for billing/pricing/equipment and such. These things in no way identify our product.
It does identify a product and service. You just stated that it gives students access for billing, pricing, and equipment. The account is both the product and service. The platform that the account feature runs on is the product. Being a access billing is the service. If you make the user aware of the ability to access that information online, then you have identified the product and service.

But as any smart,logical business owner understands, presenting online classes as anything remotely close to tactile classes is a recipe for disaster down the road
Martial arts has survived forms written in books, faulty memories, and video is a good resource tool. Do a form in video and you can always go back to that video to learn the form for when you forget it. Don't record it on video, then you can only hope that you can remember that form forever. If there was video back during the origins of kung fu then they would have put it on video. Wing Chun practioners often have heated debates about interpretations of wing chun because there is no video of the Wing Chun greats using wing chun to fight.

When cameras came into existence, the kung fu masters started using cameras to take pictures instead of drawings because the pictures were more accurate. Then came video and the kung fu masters adopted the video format. Without a way to record the lessons, forms, techniques, and application, your system will run the risk of being lost for ever. Online video is no different than what you see below, other than the format and quality. Other than that is serves to the same purpose, to assist with training. Without it one, can only guess how to do it.
Honestly, I fear we will not recognize martial arts 20 years from now if we do not preserve it.
20 years from then, and this form is still practiced the same.
 
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Yes. Yes it does.
I have understood all along that I am thinking of the whole business model more binary. But I have tried to separate my comments from this thinking and instead think of them how I believe the OP will hear your comments.
I assume you already know your comments (aka, the pitch) leave more questions than answers. Aka, the up sale.
We have all seen the random person get on this site and try to sell something. It is usually recognized quite quickly and they get little to no response.
No, I donā€™t think you are that guy but I have heard a lot of the same stuff. Simply put superficial ideas without depth lead to more failures than successes.

To the OP; I would have to say the best way to ride out this virus storm is to have had your emergency fund in place. Since this thing has protracted having this fund would speak volumes to your landlords and bankers. I doubt many people have/had enough EF to carry them through but hopefully enough to fund an a action plan once thing became a little clearer.
The reason I can't go into detail is because that would require me to lay my business model out and I'm not going to do that or explain in detail what online component's I'm putting into action and how it works and how it will benefit in generating enrollment online and offline. So I give enough information for people who may interested in it to research it more. Maybe to even see what other schools are doing and how they are making it work for their school.

So yes. I know some people may have questions. I don't think the other instructors would be happy if I just laid out the plan in public. I wouldn't be happy to lay the public out in plan. I have a lot riding on the success of it.
 
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