Is the Grass Greener in the Great White North?

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Wary of four more years? Follow the sane drain to Canada

Commentary by JILL PORTER


Looks like the worst has happened.

Four more years of fanatical right-wing fundamentalists running the government. Four more years of lies, regressive social policy and Laura Bush.

Clearly, there's only one thing left to do:

Pack up and move to Canada.

You've heard of brain drain? I'm calling this the sane drain -- an exodus of progressive people who find the idea of another Bush administration unbearable.

"If the country votes for Bush, then 51 percent of the people in this country are psychos," one Colorado resident told the Denver Post last week.

He opened a bank account in British Columbia weeks before the election. Smart.

So, while you recover from your crying jag, I've done some prep work for you. Herewith, a short guide to our benign neighbors to the North:

1. To emigrate, call the Canadian Embassy in Washington, D.C., at (202) 682-1740 or apply online at www.cic.gc.ca/english/index.html.

2. If you're drowning your sorrows in booze, drink before you go. You can bring in only 1.5 liters of wine or 1.14 liters of booze without a tax.

3. Oh, and learn what a liter is, fast. Also, kilometers and kilograms. And think Celsius instead of Fahrenheit. That's how they measure the temperature. Actually, you might be better off not understanding what the temperature is, because it gets really, really cold there.

4. But at least when you get pneumonia, you won't have to worry about affording a doctor. Canadians have free public health care. That means your meds for post-election depression will be covered, too.

But brace yourselves for some other cultural adjustments:

1. The second language in Canada is French. Can you say cheesesteak avec?

2. Not that they have Cheez Whiz. In fact, their favorite fast food -- called poutine -- is French fries covered with hard cheese and meat gravy. Bleagh.

3. And forget Krispy Kreme. You'll have to settle for a doughnut from Tim Horton's, a chain named for a deceased hockey player.

4. Yes, hockey is the national pastime. So say goodbye to baseball, which might just be a blessing.

5. Finally, some trivia: they have a one-dollar coin they call a "loonie" and a two-dollar coin they call a "toonie." Which presumably means they have a sense of humor. Though not a good one.

These are small sacrifices -- except for the Cheez Whiz -- to make for sanity. There's no death penalty, real gun control and legal gay marriage.

And, unlike most of the rest of the world, Canadians actually still like us. "We have a tremendous affection for Americans and America," said Tim Woods, a Canadian immigration expert.

And in one way, moving to Canada is returning to our roots.

They do, after all, live under the British monarchy.

It's taken us all these years to find out, but there is a fate worse than that.
 
3. Oh, and learn what a liter is, fast. Also, kilometers and kilograms. And think Celsius instead of Fahrenheit.
This is easy - it's all base 10 conversions. I can help!

Canadians have free public health care. That means your meds for post-election depression will be covered, too.
Wrong. We still pay for prescription drugs, but there are talks of change....

1. The second language in Canada is French. Can you say cheesesteak avec?
Non issue unless you live in Quebec.

2. Not that they have Cheez Whiz. In fact, their favorite fast food -- called poutine -- is French fries covered with hard cheese and meat gravy. Bleagh.
We do have cheez whiz. And poutine is ****ing delicious.

And, unlike most of the rest of the world, Canadians actually still like us. "We have a tremendous affection for Americans and America," said Tim Woods, a Canadian immigration expert.
He's lying.

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They do, after all, live under the British monarchy.
Not really - the connection is more figurative than anything. We are an independant nation. But the Queen is on the money. Oh! Our money is more colorful, and so much more fun to collect.
 
:rofl: Nice!

You know what, I was pissed about the elction at first. It demonstrated to me that 51% of American voters are naive, xenophobic, and ruled by fear. But then I realized, that's nothing new! Why am I surprised? I never had that much faith in the human species to begin with, let alone other Americans. I'm over it.

And besides, I prefer baseball to hockey.
 
Flatlander said:
Oh! Our money is more colorful, and so much more fun to collect.

Collecting Money! I thought all of you pinko socialists just gave your money away to the poor! :idunno:

I'd move to Canada for the beer... :partyon:

Seriously, though, I'm wondering how the Canadian quality of life compares to that in the US.
 
Zepp said:
And besides, I prefer baseball to hockey.

Uffda :flame:

Do you guys say "Uffda" in Canada or is that just something people in MN do?

Hockey has the grace of baseball, the contact of football, and the sweet gloves off action any MAist might appreciate!
 
Collecting Money! I thought all of you pinko socialists just gave your money away to the poor! :idunno:
Gotta save some for, yep, you guessed it:
I'd move to Canada for the beer
I stay here for the beer.

Seriously, though, I'm wondering how the Canadian quality of life compares to that in the US.
Honestly, I bet it's about the same, but depends upon where and how you choose to live. You could live in Toronto, and on an average salary live in a crappy house 2 hours from work, or you could live in Regina (SK) and, on an average salary live in a pretty decent house 5 minutes from work. Higher taxes, more social programs.

Do you guys say "Uffda" in Canada or is that just something people in MN do?
Uffda is Norwegian. It's common among Nowegian people. My chemistry teacher used to say it all the time. Chemists have solutions. Fysics is phun. :uhyeah:
 
Flatlander said:
Uffda is Norwegian. It's common among Nowegian people. My chemistry teacher used to say it all the time. Chemists have solutions. Fysics is phun. :uhyeah:

Yeah, eh!
 
If you think poutine sounds bad you would just die if you had a plate of "fries with the works" set in front of you!

If any of you seriously want to immigrate to Canada better start the paperwork now it will likely take you years to get in, if you even get that far.

But don't come for the health care, it could kill you.
 
On Monday, there were 20,000 hits on Canada's emmigration site. On Wednesday, there were 115,000 hits.

Hmmm.....
 
upnorthkyosa said:
3. And forget Krispy Kreme. You'll have to settle for a doughnut from Tim Horton's, a chain named for a deceased hockey player.
Actually there are Krispy Kremes in Canada, there's one not 5 minutes from my apt. here in London, Ontario, I know of at least one more in Toronto, so yes they are slowly seeping into Canada, BUT, then again, there are WAY more Tim Horton Donuts in the States then there are Krispy Kremes in Canada, so I think our invasion is winning. (Timmies is better too :p )

Dot
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Well of course theres more TH down here....we own em. :)
 
Actually Kaith that is mistaken, it was founded by Miles Gilbert "Tim" Horton, a hockey player who was born on January 12, 1930 in Cochrane.

The first Tim Hortons store was opened in 1964 on 64 Ottawa Street North, near Dunsmure Rd., in Hamilton, Ontario. It has since grown into Canada's largest national chain of coffee and doughnut shops, with over 1,500 stores across Canada. Tim Donut Ltd., the corporate headquarters of the chain, is located in Oakville, Ontario and in 1997, Tim Hortons was employing 25,000 people across the country.
One day, Ron Joyce met Dave Thomas on a golf course. Thomas, the American founder of the Wendy's hamburger chain, owned a house next to Joyce's, in Fort Lauderdale, Florida and the pair immediately hit it off as good friends. In 1992, the two men began co-operating on the business front. They established a number of combination Wendy's/Tim Hortons stores in Canada, a total of 13 by 1995.

After serious consideration by both men and their company boards, a merger was announced between Wendy's and Tim Hortons in 1995. This was a $425-million U.S. deal that left Ron Joyce the biggest shareholder of the third-largest hamburger chain in the United States. It also made Tim Hortons a division of the U.S.-based Wendy's chain. The merger left Tim Hortons a wholly owned subsidiary of Wendy's, although the two do retain separate management. As part of the deal, Tim Donut Ltd. was given 13.5% of Wendy's stock, worth about $300 million U.S., and Wendy's assumed $125 million U.S. of Tim Hortons' debt. In the end, the total deal was worth about $580 million Canadian.

Although Tim Hortons had operated in nearby Buffalo since the 1970's, Joyce, considered the Wendy's/Tim Hortons merger a great way to expand into the U.S. market, under the merger, forty stores were opened in Detroit and another forty in the Columbus, Ohio area. He also began expanding the store by introducing some non-traditional storefronts, such as carts, drive-through-only locations, and small outlets in universities, sports arenas, the CN Tower, and duty-free stores at the U.S.-Canadian border.
These quotes were derived from this web page. So it seems the reason that we are larger in the States then Crispy Creme is in Canada is because we are merged with Wendy's.

Cheers,

Ryan
 
I know they were founded and are HQed in Canada, but they are owned by a US corporation (Wendys).

Personally, I prefer Krispy Kremes (Note the official Klingon spelling of the name) ;) donuts, but do like the sandwich and soups served at Tim Hortons. :) I often meet my business clients at TH's. They are usually alot cleaner than the local McD's. :)
 
TH coffee is the best...trust me I get one EVERY day. ;)
 
Oh and for the northbound..........


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But personally, I always thought that martial artists would eschew such defeatist stuff as a weakness of spirit.
 
Tgace said:
Oh and for the northbound..........


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But personally, I always thought that martial artists would eschew such defeatist stuff as a weakness of spirit.
Best way to avoid danger - not be there. :asian:
 
True. But if you refuse to face danger for or defend something/someone you love or swore allegience to. Than you are faithless and a coward.

Then again, maybe some people dont love their country or think its worth sticking around for. Heck with the divorce rate what it is in this nation I suppose that shouldnt suprise me.
 
Tgace said:
True. But if you refuse to face danger for or defend something/someone you love or swore allegience to. Than you are faithless and a coward.

Then again, maybe some people dont love their country or think its worth sticking around for. Heck with the divorce rate what it is in this nation I suppose that shouldnt suprise me.

I won't move to Canada. I could, I have the means and the ability, but there are a lot of people who can't. I would rather fight here for them.

I might visit though. The fishing kicks butt up there.
 

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