Inferior guy pulled a knife on me , how do i overcome shame ?

[Pedro sanchez]

Hi everyone .

So a year back , i was snacking in a public market , when a young guy in he's early 20s joined the snacking ; Then this clumsy young adult came in and was probably on recreational drugs , with 2 long scars across his cheeks.

After this , the young guy suggested politely to the other young adult to sit down , the latter refused thinking he don't need his permission.

So the drugged guy kept throwing a chair 3 times at the young guy , then I moved away , and he kept doing that until I told him why you're doing this .(wrong idea I know )

So now I became the victim after he pulled a knife when he realised i am stronger than him .

So i dodged his attacks until I told him to stop " I was just talking , i dont want to fight" , and i eventually just paid the snack and ran away .
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What is the worse that can happen to me psychologically in this situation , specially that I have schizophrenia ?

 

[Hot Lunch]

Hi everyone .

So a year back , i was snacking in a public market , when a young guy in he's early 20s joined the snacking ; Then this clumsy young adult came in and was probably on recreational drugs , with 2 long scars across his cheeks.

After this , the young guy suggested politely to the other young adult to sit down , the latter refused thinking he don't need his permission.

So the drugged guy kept throwing a chair 3 times at the young guy , then I moved away , and he kept doing that until I told him why you're doing this .(wrong idea I know )

So now I became the victim after he pulled a knife when he realised i am stronger than him .

So i dodged his attacks until I told him to stop " I was just talking , i dont want to fight" , and i eventually just paid the snack and ran away .
.............................

What is the worse that can happen to me psychologically in this situation , specially that I have schizophrenia ?

Are we more qualified than your psychiatrist to answer this question? Are we even more qualified than YOU?

 

[Hot Lunch]

By the way, the use of the word "inferior" in the title is kind of disturbing. Do you feel superior to him because he might be a drug addict? It seems to me that you both have problems, the only difference is that you have access to behavioral healthcare and he probably doesn't.

 

[Ivan]

By the way, the use of the word "inferior" in the title is kind of disturbing. Do you feel superior to him because he might be a drug addict? It seems to me that you both have problems, the only difference is that you have access to behavioral healthcare and he probably doesn't.

In some languages there are words that denote one is better mannered, or behaved, but can only be translated into English as being "better" than someone. Judging by OP's name, and his minor errors in his grammar, I imagine that is why he is using these words

 

[mograph]

By the way, the use of the word "inferior" in the title is kind of disturbing. Do you feel superior to him because he might be a drug addict?

It could be a translation thing.

 

[Pedro sanchez]

In some languages there are words that denote one is better mannered, or behaved, but can only be translated into English as being "better" than someone. Judging by OP's name, and his minor errors in his grammar, I imagine that is why he is using these words

I meant inferior physically. Because he is a shorty and i am taller and heavier than him , so first thing he did is he pulled his knife without hesitation.

Actually these type of persons are not just inferior but also nasty and pure cowards.

Also felt he took advantage of my mental state as a schizophrenic.

If I was mentally pure , I would have reacted differently.

This is why i hate my illness , it can make me vulnerable in the wrong place with the very wrong people.

 

[Bill Mattocks]

I suggest you seek qualified help.

 

[Hot Lunch]

I meant inferior physically. Because he is a shorty and i am taller and heavier than him , so first thing he did is he pulled his knife without hesitation.

Actually these type of persons are not just inferior but also nasty and pure cowards.

Also felt he took advantage of my mental state as a schizophrenic.

If I was mentally pure , I would have reacted differently.

This is why i hate my illness , it can make me vulnerable in the wrong place with the very wrong people.

I don't think you're giving the whole story. There's definitely some pertinent information being left out.

A guy who is allegedly on drugs walks in. Your friend asks him to sit down. Why? Was the man engaging in suspicious behavior, other than appearing to be under the influence? Was your friend inviting him to the table for a friendly interaction?

Why did the man get angry? Was it REALLY over being offered a seat?

Is the man a stranger? If so, how does he know your situation? Does he know your condition because he's NOT a stranger? If this is the case, were there interactions prior to this that led up to it that you're not telling us?

Finally, if you have a particular mental health diagnosis and he's under the influence of drugs - there's a lot of factors at play, especially what specific drugs he's using - but there's a high probably that he wouldn't have the upper hand that you're attributing to him. And then the next question is this: is there a possibility that he may have perceived you to be the aggressor and was merely trying to protect himself? I'm a fairly big guy myself, and when I express a grievance to someone about something, I do it in a non-confrontational tone and posture so that they won't think I'm trying to intimidate them with my size (it's not something that I have to do consciously; it comes naturally).

 

[Pedro sanchez]

Is the man a stranger? If so, how does he know your situation? Does he know your condition because he's NOT a stranger? If this is the case, were there interactions prior to this that led up to it that you're not telling us?

OK OK, I will explain clearly.

First , the three of us don't know each other .

Second , where i live these types of people are usually the first perpetrators , they take hallucinatory pills in order to attack people for money and get by without charges because law doesn't punish " stoned " individuals . So basically they are above the law " in proving grounds" i mean in real life . And cops don't risk their life confronting them .

Another point is , I am totally in control of my schizophrenia and have no reason to feel paranoid or have any type of delusion of grandeur to act superior or speak in an aggressive tone.

Lastly , this person again don't know me , but i felt overwhelmed and helpless after he pulled his knife , when in fact i got all the power to end the situation to my advantage , at least emotionally.

Now , it's been a year after this event and I feel calm now.

I just want to know from experienced people in knife fights , how to avoid these situations in my case as a person treating schizophrenia.

 

[Pedro sanchez]

In some languages there are words that denote one is better mannered, or behaved, but can only be translated into English as being "better" than someone. Judging by OP's name, and his minor errors in his grammar, I imagine that is why he is using these words

I am not native English speaker .

 

[Dirty Dog]

This is a martial arts forum. What you've posted in this and other threads has nothing whatsoever to do with martial arts.

You need to seek psychiatric help from psychiatric professionals. Not from a bunch of random strangers on a martial arts forum.

 

[mograph]

I meant inferior physically. Because he is a shorty and i am taller and heavier than him , so first thing he did is he pulled his knife without hesitation.

Actually these type of persons are not just inferior but also nasty and pure cowards.

Also felt he took advantage of my mental state as a schizophrenic.

If I was mentally pure , I would have reacted differently.

This is why i hate my illness , it can make me vulnerable in the wrong place with the very wrong people.

Don't be so hard on yourself -- it doesn't lead to better mental health.

Also, while we all have the right to defend ourselves, try to understand what might have been behind the other guy's actions -- he might have been mentally ill as well. So just as you want others to be compassionate if you do something because of your illness, others might need that compassion as well.

Nobody is mentally pure. We all have something going on in there, more or less, and most of us only look normal because we haven't been pushed far enough. Who knows what a life on the street might do to some of us?

Anyway, I'd wager that very few (if any) of us on this forum has clinical psychological qualifications, and even if they did, they could not comment responsibly on the schizophrenia component of your situation, or what's behind your shame, because they're not your therapist.

All they can comment on is how the average person could avoid getting into a knife fight. To that end, based on your account of the incident:

and he kept doing that until I told him why you're doing this .(wrong idea I know )

... you know what you did wrong. You intervened.

Learn to be invisible. Boring. Not of any interest.
As an old guy (63), that's all I can say.

 

[Buka]

Anything involving an edged weapon where nobody gets hurt should be taken as a win.

 

[drop bear]

There is often a mental toxic side effect to being in a fight. And especially an unresolved one.

You kind of just have to accept that happens and move on.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Anything involving an edged weapon where nobody gets hurt should be taken as a win.

Best outcome is not be stabbed and not to be forced to fight off someone attacking with a knife. Running away is also smart no need to give that person a second chance to stab or slash.

One day everyone will reach a point where running away won't be an option. That day will suck.

 

[Pedro sanchez]

Hi again I am back.

I just want to point out that the event I mentioned occured in casablanca in west morocco , and my origins are from Eastern morocco .

The event of a guy who pulled a knife and hunt me down with it because I intervened between him and another person.

So in that sense I may be the one who is inferior since I belong to a minority in casablanca .

So that may be a thing to consider in the futur to avoid trouble like this.

What do you think , should I move out of this city perhaps ?

 

[O'Malley]

Hi,

I think this is on point:

There is often a mental toxic side effect to being in a fight. And especially an unresolved one.

You kind of just have to accept that happens and move on.

The incident happened two years ago, it would be normal for you to move on and keep on living.
If you still feel strong guilt about the incident (obviously you did everything right and walked away unharmed against a guy with a knife, that's also a win in my book), it is relatable but I would advise you to talk with a qualified psychotherapist.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Hi again I am back.

I just want to point out that the event I mentioned occured in casablanca in west morocco , and my origins are from Eastern morocco .

The event of a guy who pulled a knife and hunt me down with it because I intervened between him and another person.

So in that sense I may be the one who is inferior since I belong to a minority in casablanca .

So that may be a thing to consider in the futur to avoid trouble like this.

What do you think , should I move out of this city perhaps ?

You are going to be the best to decide this. Trust yourself to read your environment. To give you some perspective. I used to live in a dangerous and there were two types of people who lived there.
- people who want to leave but can't
- people who want to leave and will soon leave.

Rules of the street. Be careful of what conflicts you try to break up there are different ways you can help without personally putting yourself in danger. Sometimes it's safer to just call the police. In the neighborhood that I used to go in, I had to remind myself that the person I try to help may be a "Drug dealer vs Drug dealer" scenario. Sometimes we see people in trouble, and we think that there is a good guy and bad guy in the conflict. Sometimes it's just Bad guy vs Bad guy.

All of the people I knew from the bad neighborhoods wanted to get leave. Only the criminals wanted to stay because they wanted to control the neighborhoods. If you are a minority that the majority hates then yeah. I would move out. As bad as the neighborhood that I used live in was, most people there really didn't hate others. They were just angry all the time.

The neighborhoods that hate are the worst. In my opinion they are worse than the neighborhoods that have a lot of crime.

 

[Hot Lunch]

Rules of the street. Be careful of what conflicts you try to break up there are different ways you can help without personally putting yourself in danger. Sometimes it's safer to just call the police. In the neighborhood that I used to go in, I had to remind myself that the person I try to help may be a "Drug dealer vs Drug dealer" scenario. Sometimes we see people in trouble, and we think that there is a good guy and bad guy in the conflict. Sometimes it's just Bad guy vs Bad guy.

100%

It's been my observation that in areas of high crime, the people who "chose that life" are more likely to be victims than those who aren't involved in the nonsense.

 

[Prince_Alarming]

Having been a junkie myself, my main comment is that it's best not to get involved, which is what you did. The urge to use is extremely strong and can even overcome natural inhibitions against killing in somebody that would never usually be violent.