Improving my sidekick

[seasoned]

It appears the power is originating from the knee as opposed to trusting from the hip...

 

[InfiniteLoop]

It appears the power is originating from the knee as opposed to trusting from the hip...

Yes. The problem is that the end position will look the same regardless, so students can and will neglect these things.

If on the other hand correct end position was a necessary consequence of the hip thrust, then he would never even have to ask this question.

 

[seasoned]

Yes. The problem is that the end position will look the same regardless, so students can and will neglect these things.

If on the other hand correct end position was a necessary consequence of the hip thrust, then he would never even have to ask this question.

Correct seems to be the issue, although as you said, the end result is the same. But, is it? For years I corrected side thrust kicks that had more knee then hip thrust. It may be a different "arts" thing.

 

[InfiniteLoop]

Correct seems to be the issue, although as you said, the end result is the same. But, is it? .

It can be visually indistinguishable to the naked eye. I have stills of sidekicks and roundhouses that looked on point in the end position, but were crappy during execution. When I say crappy, I mean like too low knee raise. I still kept the stills because the end position was correct as a reference.

 

[seasoned]

It can be visually indistinguishable to the naked eye. I have stills of sidekicks and roundhouses that looked on point in the end position, but were crappy during execution. When I say crappy, I mean like too low knee raise. I still kept the stills because the end position was correct as a reference.

I could digress into front snap vs front thrust with the end position being the same but that is for another thread...Some dojo gear more towards tournaments and competition where the end result is points and winning. And some dojo try to mix the two with....life preservation vs sport tournaments. Then there are the dojo that spar less, drill more and train in the old ways.....

 

[dvcochran]

It can be visually indistinguishable to the naked eye. I have stills of sidekicks and roundhouses that looked on point in the end position, but were crappy during execution. When I say crappy, I mean like too low knee raise. I still kept the stills because the end position was correct as a reference.

Okay, let’s try to reset.
In regards to the original intent of this thread, ask one question about one kick.

It has completely devolved.

 

[InfiniteLoop]

Okay, let’s try to reset.
In regards to the original intent of this thread, ask one question about one kick.

It has completely devolved.

Not much more to say

 

[seasoned]

Okay, let’s try to reset.
In regards to the original intent of this thread, ask one question about one kick.

It has completely devolved.

Exactly, The question was "Improving my sidekick". We went full circle on opinions and when that was exhausted we started to digress into what I would describe as hybrids. Straight out of Okinawa Goju the side kick is strictly for breaking and destroying things and is always below the waist.

 

[martialuser]

Correct seems to be the issue, although as you said, the end result is the same. But, is it? For years I corrected side thrust kicks that had more knee then hip thrust. It may be a different "arts" thing.

Which art did you correct it in?

 

[Fungus]

Hey, a while ago I made a post about improving my sidekick. I took all of that into consideration and applied as best as I could. I aim to perfect my sidekick and polish it to the best it can be. I have another video of myself, and I would appreciate any sort of feedback or criticism as to how to improve it. Thank you very much.

Note sure how much the kihon form differs between styles, but assuming this is the "yoko geri" in our style, the chambering position should be the tsuru ashi dachi, where your knee almost touches the other leg.

But I think set aside ideal forms, in fighting there are "impure" versions of the "side kick" which ranges from a snappy clean yoko geri to a back kick, which chambers the hip and adds the glutes power.

In fighting I tend to exclusively use "side kicks" where I step into the kick and make it probably 80% backkick and 20% yoko geri hybrid. Slower but more powerful, and suits me better. But I am sure it would not be approved as neither a pure yoko geri neither a pure ushir geri. This i why I love kumite, you can do any hybrid that works for you, and ignore the labelling problem.