I really enjoyed this one.
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While at the Kali Academy, Paul did a lot of classes in the South Asia arts FMA, Silat, etc. In Eskrido, like most FMA these techniques are taught simply as self defense. If someone attacks with a weapon or it’s ascertained that it’s life threatening, we’re not concerned about whether it’s career ending or not.
Steve
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Dudes a badass for sure. I like how casual he is.
I like Eric Paulson’s material a lot and would love the chance to train with him.
That said, I was a little disappointed in this video. It seemed that often he just jumped to the first technique in his repertoire which roughly resembled the pictures in the Bubishi rather than looking more carefully to see how the details of the illustrations might indicate something a bit different from what he does.
That said, I was a little disappointed in this video. It seemed that often he just jumped to the first technique in his repertoire which roughly resembled the pictures in the Bubishi rather than looking more carefully to see how the details of the illustrations might indicate something a bit different from what he does.
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I noticed that too. But he is not an Okinawan karate specialist and probably is content with the way he does things (something I wouldn't argue with him about). While many of his techniques were not exactly as illustrated, they were close enough IMO to show the effectiveness of the kind of things the Bubishi was showing.
These techniques, plus the karate we all are familiar with, give a hint of what the masters were probably capable of in the later 1800's thru the start of the 1900's and what Okinawan karate looked like in its early stages. Definitely not sport or exercise oriented.
For the sake of technique discussion, at 3.02, he can "crack" his opponent's elbow joint better if he extends his right arm and put the back of his right palm on his opponent's chest while pulling his opponent's left arm with his left hand.
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The aoki arm break is pretty famous though.
That's the 1st counter for hip throw. When your opponent's arm wraps around your waist, you "crack" his elbow joint.
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The result is obvious, but it upsets me.
A sporting competition, regardless of how important it is, is still a sport. Competing in one and purposefully causing what could be a life changing and life damaging move for your opponent, is the biggest douche move there is.
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Yeah. Definitely.
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This is one of the reasons I don't like seeing MA as a sport, because it's somehow not naturally a sport.
Football is a pure sport, because it is totally useless and have absolute no purpose or meaning beyond within the sport itself, so there is no conflict.
But as MA has a purpose, which involves even lethal techniques if the combat situation so requires to defend yourself, so when you "compete" who does just that, the best, contains a conflict. In our ruleset, the rule says I can heel kick someone in the head with full power to knock them out. At the same time, going in as a contestant with the goal of inflicting permanent and serious damage to your oppponent is against the rules. There is a big gray area here.
IF I did enter such a competition, and accept the rules, I would probably think that I will knock the other guy out first, before he knows me out. And in such situaiton, thinkgs easily get out of hand. I would probably feel like a fool even if i accidently hurt someone badly in a compoetition.
I love high contact sparring to learn and to informally "compare" what you learned by pressure testing, but in a friendly setting. Meaning we exchange pain and bruises, and some occasional accidently cracked rib, but we still want to see each other standing up next week. But all that is not "sport".
Great video. That is a common technique against knife and other weapon attacks. Many effective variations under the same concept
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I think this is difficult for people outside of a system or for peoplewho know multiple systems. I run into this when my Muay Thai sparring partner tries to help me explore Jow Ga Techniques. Sometimes we get light bulb moments but sometimes the technique gets translated into Muay Thai, which is what I don't want to happen. I don't want to do it the muay thai way. I want to do it the Jow Ga way. Similar is fine, but I become irritated and start to resist when it starts to take a muay thai perspective.
I also learned that martial arts pictures often aren't specific unless they are tied to a technique sequence. If it shows only one picture then it tends to have more than one application. Instead of "this is for A" the picture represents a movement that can be used to initiate other techniques. In other words it becomes an "entry technique" which is why no other techniques follow.
Knowing multiple systems causes blending and it can be difficult to know where one technique begins and the other ends especially when there are similarities. It's not a bad thing but one has to be aware of it.
Wing Woo Gar
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Is it a banned technique in sport?
Wing Woo Gar
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Is it banned?
I never competed in MMA, but trained in it a lot and was a judge for five years. But I honestly don’t remember all the rules, including what was allowed and what was not.
So….I dunno.
No it is not banned in MMA. It was a perfectly legal technique in that match.
Perhaps if injuries like that happened more often, then rules would be put in place to try preventing them. But it's a relatively rare occurrence. The same thing which makes the technique dangerous (relying on ballistic application rather than steady control of the position which would allow for tapping before injury) also makes it hard for fighters to develop the necessary skill to reliably execute it against a skilled, resisting opponent. After all, fighters would rapidly run out of training partners if they applied the break that way while sparring in the gym.
