When your opponent controls both of your arms, you have to free your arm/arms before you can do anything. But if your opponent only controls one of your arms, your free arm can just punch on his head. The only issue is when you punch, your opponent may use your leading arm to jam your punching arm. So in order to have a perfect counter, you still have to free your arm first.
Nothing here I disagree with.
Why not have the best of both worlds? Stick to and control his arms to create an opening for a strike or throw without struggling and fighting against his force? Isn't that exactly the type of skill exercises like chi-sau were originally intended to develop?
chasing hands is BS its over and a used meaningless term... its like calling someone a racist who you dont know anything about.
Chasing hands is an established term that is part of the chasing center concept. It is used for Wing Chun practitioners who are not attacking and chasing center. If a practitioner prioritizes attacking the opponentās arms when there is a clear opportunity to hit, they are indeed chasing hands. In other words, it is doing the opposite of Lat Sau Jik Chung.
Personally, Iām starting to get the impression that the OPās "Center Point" theory might really just be his way of coming to the realization that the chasing center concept čæ½å½¢ in Wing Chun is about the opponentās centerline, not our own centerline. I fear that in an attempt to think outside the box, he is also in danger of mistakenly reinventing the wheel.
Well put.
In the last 20 years or so we've all learned that "Wing Chun" is more diverse, with more branches and interpretations than I ever imagined back in the 70s and 80s. So I would not be quick to say that anybody else was not doing "Wing Chun".
When you do a hip throw, you violate the Taiji principle that you should keep your head vertical upward. Does that mean if you train hip throw, you just put the Taiji system at a risk?
Wang Zhi Peng is demonstrating that it is possible to blend Sanshou, and he does it well. He is also not sacrificing (omitting, deleting, neglecting, ignoring, contradicting, re-defining, throwing out, etc...) any core WSLVT principles in exchange for his own ideas.
That's because he doesn't understand Snake or Crane style. How the hell is he going to become a dragon without understanding his human body?
Which could quite possibly hark back to our earlier discussion regarding the Western mindset. So many details are often lost in translation.
center point when someone is standing up is slightly below the navel. there are many ways to effect this point.. One way is by having your opponent over extend himself which moves his centerpoint.. Just attacking the COM means your oppoenet is still balanced and cn defend ant attack by using C,P,T you cant launch a proper attack is your not balanced.. its like a drunk man trying to stay on his feet. C.P.T is the continuation or or you can use as an add on to the standard wing chun procedure. There is no conflict when using C.P.T.
After reading this thread and others about this 'center point theory' I still have no idea what it's supposed to mean.
If I am understanding what you wrote here correctly- are you are advocating CPT as taking control of the opponent's balance, rather than simply controlling their centreline?
Yes, C.P.T is about controlling and manipulating your opponents balance point not about using Centerline line theory.. Centerline Theory is very specific and does not have anything to do with C.P.T of course it does not mean one can not be doung both at the same time both. But they have different functions and priorities..
Fair enough.
