Health Care

[Wing Woo Gar]

The USA is supposed to be a constitutional republic. So why is our health care system turning toward Socialism? Nowhere in the Constitution does it allow the Federal government to force people to purchase a product (health care) then use the I.R.S. as henchman to enforce.
After this recent shift to Socialism we had doctors leaving the profession due to non profits. New health care providers coming in are scarce. Drug costs are skyrocketing.

Is this the first second or the second second?

I will second that.

 

[Steve]

My wife worked for Blue Cross Blue Shield for twenty five years. She started in the mailroom at twenty years old and worked her way up to writing contracts. Our dining room table was frequently stacked, two feet high, with her take home work.

For the last eighteen years she’s worked as a Research Grants Analyst for the biggest hospitals in Boston. (She works remotely from Hawaii, obviously.)

So I’ve been around this health care stuff for most of my adult life.

Calling health care in the United States garbage, to me, is a compliment.

And an insult to garbage.

people hate the idea of socialized healthcare, but love their Medicare and the ACA. statistically speaking, that is. When someone says socialized medicine or along those lines, they are telling you which jersey they wear.

There are a lot of folks in the USA who have been convinced to vote against their own interests.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

people hate the idea of socialized healthcare, but love their Medicare and the ACA. statistically speaking, that is. When someone says socialized medicine or along those lines, they are telling you which jersey they wear.

There are a lot of folks in the USA who have been convinced to vote against their own interests.

I agree with you on multiple levels here. I want to say even more but I don’t want to get trouble for being political. I think a fully Socialized medical care system that covers every single American would be best. This country is rich enough to eliminate this problem, there is no excuse. Insurance companies rape and pillage, the CEO of Blue cross got a 50 million dollar bonus last year. The adjusters are incentivized to deny claims. Need I say more?

 

[Steve]

I agree with you on multiple levels here. I want to say even more but I don’t want to get trouble for being political. I think a fully Socialized medical care system that covers every single American would be best. This country is rich enough to eliminate this problem, there is no excuse. Insurance companies rape and pillage, the CEO of Blue cross got a 50 million dollar bonus last year. The adjusters are incentivized to deny claims. Need I say more?

just observing that in the USA, we have regulated many things considered essential to life, where introducing a profit motive creates a clear imbalance. Most Americans have no problems with regulating essential utilities, for example. And we have seen in places like Texas that deregulating energy leads literally to unnecessary death and suffering.

In most things, profiteering is agreed to be a bad thing. It’s a well established norm. But for some reason, when it comes to health care, it’s socialism.

I believe folks are just afraid to lose what little they have. And I get it. But I have personally taken welfare applications from parents who had to literally give every asset they had to the hospitals in order to qualify for Medicaid because their kid had a life threatening illness. Generally speaking, this doesn’t happen quite as often now as it did in the late 90s and early 00s because America passed the ACA.

 

[Buka]

people hate the idea of socialized healthcare, but love their Medicare and the ACA. statistically speaking, that is. When someone says socialized medicine or along those lines, they are telling you which jersey they wear.

There are a lot of folks in the USA who have been convinced to vote against their own interests.

Chapeaux rouges at a rakish cant.

 

[Wing Woo Gar]

Chapeaux rouges at a rakish cant.

Unfortunately, that’s a very sad but true statement. The bane of logical thought and basic truths.

 

[Dirty Dog]

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