I don’t think I’m really interested in kenpo. I’m more into a grappling art or full contact stand up art like Kyokushin or its off shoots.
Only once you have a solid foundation in one or the other. For a beginner I think there’s too much overlap and contradictions within that overlap.
I have competed in Amatuer boxing and Amatuer mma along with no gi bjj comp. the kyokushin school is the closest school to me. I think I might go with kyokushin since it’s the closest school to me. Blend it with boxing on the side and jump into the kickboxing scene. Then later down the road as a hobbyist I’ll pick up a grappling art while I still stay active in kyokushin.
To be clear, I have trained in Judo and Kyokushin but have never studied Sambo. From what I understand Sambo is a full contact sport so I expect it will require you to get in good physical condition to participate fully. Judo is also a great sport that requires its practitioners to be in good physical shape to be able to perform the techniques against non-compliant opponents. Neither Judo nor Sambo require you to work on katas or forms.
My post you quoted was in response to the guy who’s posted practically nothing but “train American Kenpo” and not towards you.
Very well said. I agree with you on for the most part you can find a kyokushin dojo or an off shoot in most cities so the availability to train wherever you go is good. I’m a huge fan of kyokushin. I took a few Classes at Dallas Kyokushin where I live and I like the balance of the art as well it definitely satisfies my needs in wanting an art that toughens you up and gives you a good balance of tradition and hard contact and sparring. I’m thinking I’m going to choose to go back to the Kyokushin school since it’s the closest school to me in the list of schools I mentioned above in my original post. I’m going to take a long life journey in Kyokushin and cross train with some boxing on the side and try and compete in knockdown as well as kickboxing while I’m still in my early 30’s. When I’m done competing I’ll pick up a grappling art as a hobbyist and cross train that while I continue my Kyokushin journey into my later years. I think that’s a good plan for me.
It can be. I know a few folks that crosstrain both. Something to consider is that there is no face punching in Kyokushin and there are typically no gloves worn in knockdown (the only equipment you can wear is a mouthpiece and a cup). Boxing also encourages level changes that can be a disaster in Kyokushin as this can result to bringing the head closer to kicking range. I wouldn't discourage the cross training in both but you need know that the reflexes developed in boxing may not good good for Kyokushin and vice versa. You will need to keep them separate if you want to do well in both at the same time.
Sounds like a good direction and look forward to following your Kyokushin journey. You never know, perhaps we will meet up in a tournament one day. I have met a few people from the old Kyokushin4life forum and it is always interesting to train with people that you have spoken with on the interwebs. Good luck with the training !
There were a lot of good people on that forum. No idea why people stopped posting. At the end it was pretty much me and one other guy (Sasha?) posting. I went to log in one day and it said the website no longer existed. A shame really. There was a lot of great information in the archives that I’d like to read and reference.
Yes. I see kyokushin being a terrific base going into kickboxing competition. I feel if I compliment my kyokushin with boxing on the side I should do really well especially since I have competed in every combat sport on an Amatuer level except I have never competed in straight kickboxing before.
I agree and disagree with using what works for you and discarding what doesn’t. Some things need far more skill and practice to actually work for you. Some things seem like they’ll never work for you, then somehow you find yourself using it at a random time. Other things don’t make sense until years later it just clicks because you finally looked at it the right way.
If the classical was efficient, why did no instructor continue to teach a semblance of Bartitsu after the breakup of the club in 1902? The only influence I can think of off the top of my head is Cherpillod teaching jiu jitsu when he returned to Switzerland. Tani and Uyenishi continued to teach jiu jitsu, Vigny the cane and savate. No student that I know of attempted to continue the art. It was a great experiment that died when the club ceased to exist.
