Ya'll might find this interesting. When I started Kenpo(early 70's) in San Jose, I learned from a couple of Philipino brothers who learned from their Dad and ended up training with Al Tracy after coming to the states. At some point in time(before my walking in) they opened their own little independent school. When we went to tournaments,the Tracy schools absolutely dominated. They were awsome, but I must say they were the majority of the referees as well. That was a very LONG time ago,but I do remember a few matches getting quite ugly with everyone in the place getting mad. We were definatly out numbered,so we bowed out a couple of times to keep the peace. I know the trouble makers were only two or three people,but there are always a few of those no matter where and when.