Front snap kick

[Gemini]

The Bird of Prey that fires While it is cloaked is unstoppable.

Right up until they blew it up....


Anyway, I've always preferred the front kick, because it can be thrown effectively moving forward or backward. I used it once with someone trying to shoot my legs by putting it on his shoulder and launching myself backwards, landing in a fighting stance with him on the ground. Forward I like it because I can pick a range of targets with my hip forward and leg chambered.

 

[monkey]

I do beleave that they took spock home in a bird of prey & cloaked it.They has to figure out it emited gass.The twist kick dose not emit gas.Hence compleatly logical to deploy.Or in Mortal Kombat.Flawless victory.

 

[Marginal]

Yes it is a good tool just as there oters are..ask your self Do you have the tools it takes to strip a racer & put togher in record time.Or are you relaying on a crecent.For sparring yes -yes- yes the front snap is good.It dose not work well in cage fights.

Really? I've seen cage fights *ended* with a good MT teep kick. (Same mechanics as a front kick.) Also worth stating that just because it can become a push kick does not mean that it is a push kick.

 

[monkey]

I follow Gracy.They end with arm break or leg break. the front snap gave the entry.This is how the depoly it.Entry to lock & break.I have not seen a Gracy use a front snap to finish ever.Nor Joe Lewis who is Know for winning fights.This gose for Noris-Sur Chi of thai boxing & Bill Wallace.I have not seen any Savate finish with front snap.The front chonsay or kekiba or just entries.

 

[Marginal]

I follow Gracy.They end with arm break or leg break. the front snap gave the entry.This is how the depoly it.Entry to lock & break.I have not seen a Gracy use a front snap to finish ever.Nor Joe Lewis who is Know for winning fights.This gose for Noris-Sur Chi of thai boxing & Bill Wallace.I have not seen any Savate finish with front snap.The front chonsay or kekiba or just entries.

I've seen Pride FC fights and kickboxing matches ended with a front kick. Really don't see what the Gracies have to do with the discussion as the technique they demonstrated when they were still doing that (they aren't now) was terrible striking. Sakuraba vs Royce clearly illustrated just how bad the Gracies were at striking before they started crosstraining seriously. A TKD front kick is not executed in the same manner as a BJJ one, and for good reason.

 

[monkey]

I havent seen any pride fight!Only a few ultimate.& when I say gracys I should specify Non of the fight were end in front snap.Most ended with a pummle to the entire body.After that i saw it a nothing more then Galdiator fights in the Romen days & people bet on who lived or died.Now its more about the money & who is the ultimat fighter.Few years back it was (Who is the next Bruce Lee)This was held by Joe Corley.

 

[Marginal]

I havent seen any pride fight!Only a few ultimate.& when I say gracys I should specify Non of the fight were end in front snap.

Yes. I know exactly what you're talking about.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=605077178385624483&q=royce+vs+sakuraba

Didn't work.

 

[monkey]

Nice run on that.Sorry I have a bit british responce some times.Let me state 1 british example so you see (its not my fault just the way I was raised)When rideing in taxi-driver turns to me & says sad isnt it.I respond (Sorry whats that then)driver- 2 of them down the road & so young.I respond ( what you on about) crash they were. This whent on for 1 hour befor I found out (2 high school kids were in a hit & run.There were no servivers of the 2.They were on vaction & trip ended short). Darn british cant just tell it like it is.Great post though ...Keep up runs like this.This is what makes the arts fun.

 

[matt.m]

You know I have to go with Monkey on this one. I like the fsk and rhk, however I absolutely without a shadow of a doubt prefer the twist kick as well as the front upraising kicks more.

Plus for you guys and gals that like to spar a lot twist kick is fabulous. Twist kick is superb because you can launch it effortlessly from horse stance, back stance, sparring stance, walking, cat and front stances. It is all about the hip.

The only people I know that don't like the twist kick are the people who can not do it well or have a hard time doing it.

 

[monkey]

thats one of the most famous pictures of the Enter the Dragon.Bruce did a twist & they cought the shot for posters just as it planted.Shame they didnt show it.Great kick.

 

[Last Fearner]

In a real life or death stituation is the front snap kick the best defense of all the TKD kicks...?

In answer to this question, the best kick is whatever kick works best in the particular circumstances, and what kick the defender is best trained in. Any person can work any kick to death, and make it their best kick, and will probably be able to use that kick effectively in most situations.

The effectiveness depends a great deal on the body position of the attacker, and how they respond to your kick. If you don't telegraph, and can hit an open target quickly, accurately, and with sufficient power, you will succeed.

...is it (the front kick) faster and can it be delivered with more power than a roundhouse?

As to the comparrison of each kick, the Side Kick, without a doubt, has the most advantages in real life self defense. I am quite familiar with all of the kicks listed above (and then some), and have used several in real life self defense.

The front kick is fast, simple, flows naturally, and can generate sufficient power. It strikes the front of the target thus can keep an attacker from charging. It can be easily used from front or back leg with similar results. It is vulnerable in that the kicker generally has their chest facing the target which can result in a counter attack to midsection or face (yes, you can prevent that). There is also a certain degree of vulnerability to trapping the front and roundhouse kick that does not exist with the side kick.

The roundhouse kick is typically about the same power as the front kick (see how many boards you can break with each). The roundhouse has the advantage of going around defenses, and is better at attacking the side of the knee (a front kick can easily slip off the knee and miss). The roundhouse has the advantage of leaning the head and body more back to avoid a counter strike. The roundhouse can also be switched quickly from a right leg to left leg which changes the side of the body you are striking. A front kick changed would strike the same target, ruling out high/low target choices (unless you change the intitial front kick to a roundhouse or other kick).

On the negative side, the roundhouse must reach further into the target to strike the side of it, thus you must be slightly closer upon impact. A back leg roundhouse is more powerful than a front leg, but it makes the kicker vulnerable by turning your body across the line of attack as you kick. The roundhouse does not stop an attacker from rushing (unless you drop them on the first kick), and it does not drive an attacker away from you. Placing your safety on being successful with the first kick dropping your opponent is not a good strategy.

The side kick (if done correctly) uses the most muscles, the strongest muscles, with the most reinforcement of the bone structure as well as physical support from the ground for maximum reaction force. It is the most powerful (I know how many boards I can break with this kick). It can be done quickly, without the wide range telegraphed movements, and it can strike any level, although knee to ribs or solar plexus is sufficient. Using the front leg keeps the body sideways before, during and after the kick, and allows you to lean your upper body away to avoid counter attacks.

Maximum power comes from a skipping or a turning side kick. The skipping kick keeps you sideways and protected while covering distance. The quick, shortcut version of a turning (or back spin) side kick only exposes the back for a brief second, and the kick is too quick, and prevents an attack if properly chambered under the hips. You can dislocate the knee, break ribs, strike the abdomen or solar plexus, and drop an opponent with ease.

I can list a multitude of advanced, or more complex kicks that one can perfect over time, and make them virtually unstopable, however, each are more difficult to learn, perfect, and use in the street. They require precision that can be thrown off by a slight movement of the opponent, and leaves you more vulnerable than the basic kicks. They typically expose the front or back of your body more than necessary, and leaves you in a compromised position if they miss. Hook kicks, crescent kicks, and twist kicks provide a level of deception that keeps most people from seeing them coming, or reacting properly to defend against them.

No one kick is going to be the "only" kick you need in every situation, and a combination of two or three would be more ideal. All kicks are have vulnerabilities, and you can find faults with each, however the side kick is the safest, with the most power, and only slightly more complex than the front or roundhouse. It is best to learn these three well, and use them as needed.

CM D. J. Eisenhart

 

[monkey]

Great post.That logical & scientificly defined with the anotomical way of peployment & if it is counterable or not.Great peice & I will make a hard copy of that.Thanks for the info.This is what makes the arts cool & interesting.Mabuhay.

 

[IcemanSK]

I've found, for me, that a side kick (to the hip or bellow) would probably be my 1st choice. For me, while a front kick may be quicker, I like the confidence of a harder kicking surface (my heel vs. ball of the foot) making contact with a spot that will either keep them off balance or incapacitated. (If I aim at either the hip or knee.)

 

[Touch Of Death]

Front snap is the fastest; so, it beats out other power kicks by simply being powerfull enough to get the job done and is a less complex action.
Sean