I heard and have the same understanding as ARNISANDYZ about Ray's stick training. However, Ray did show me some stick work from GT Chris Sayoc and it is one of the first things on the Summer Gathering 2002 tape that he sent me.
The point that I was making was sometimes when people are known for a specialty sometimes we can forget or be unaware of the other skills that they may have.
From a MA background, I even thought that Ray was mainly a knife person due to the nature of the sessions that he had taught at the Florida camps and Raleigh seminars. So can imagine the shock when I went down to my first gathering and saw his stick work!!!
There is an interesting story which occured at last JD IMAF Phili Seminar regarding one of his MA instructors who had the same inerrant perception. That person asked to work some with Ray so they could show them some cool Tapi-Tapi techniques. Much to their surprise, not only did Ray know the whole set, but eventually switched the lead and trapped the person in various ways.
The person involved was quite shocked and impressed and said a punchline that I will not say, you will have to go to Ray to get it
The point that I was making was sometimes when people are known for a specialty sometimes we can forget or be unaware of the other skills that they may have.
From a MA background, I even thought that Ray was mainly a knife person due to the nature of the sessions that he had taught at the Florida camps and Raleigh seminars. So can imagine the shock when I went down to my first gathering and saw his stick work!!!
There is an interesting story which occured at last JD IMAF Phili Seminar regarding one of his MA instructors who had the same inerrant perception. That person asked to work some with Ray so they could show them some cool Tapi-Tapi techniques. Much to their surprise, not only did Ray know the whole set, but eventually switched the lead and trapped the person in various ways.
The person involved was quite shocked and impressed and said a punchline that I will not say, you will have to go to Ray to get it