Fishing, fresh water or salt water?

[Hyoho]

So did the Japanese really use huge fishing nets that caused the tremendous decline in the fish population in the area?


It would be interesting how fishing in the UK is now. The UK never struck me as a big fishing culture, even though they're surrounded by water.

Japan has simply outfished due to demand. Most is from fish farming these days. The UK was nets. They used nets and radar and sold everything to Russian factory ships.

Don't fish much they days. More into going underwater to see them. But they are going past the house with buckets full 5 or 6 times a day straight off the boat. Fresh live prawns yesterday at USD 6 a kilo.

 

[Tez3]

Japan was fished out years ago. I used to sit on the dock and pull in kilos of sardines years ago late afternoon. Now you are lucky to catch one. They have to go further afield to catch them now.

Is the UK any better? Back in the 70's I could fill a black plastic bag with mackerel in 30 minutes off the rocks in Cornwall. I guess you cant do that any more.

Yes you can still catch that many mackerel off Cornwall, we did last year. European fish quotas damaged the UK's fishing fleets but for PG's information the UK is still a big fishing place, not as big as in the past but still big enough. Please don't make assumptions about the UK. This is the report of one Cornish fishing port. Newlyn still in top five fishing ports - with largest fleet in UK The Cornishman

 

[PhotonGuy]

Yes you can still catch that many mackerel off Cornwall, we did last year. European fish quotas damaged the UK's fishing fleets but for PG's information the UK is still a big fishing place, not as big as in the past but still big enough. Please don't make assumptions about the UK. This is the report of one Cornish fishing port. Newlyn still in top five fishing ports - with largest fleet in UK The Cornishman

You go fishing? Interesting. I thought you wouldn't like fishing.

 

[Hyoho]

Yes you can still catch that many mackerel off Cornwall, we did last year. European fish quotas damaged the UK's fishing fleets but for PG's information the UK is still a big fishing place, not as big as in the past but still big enough. Please don't make assumptions about the UK. This is the report of one Cornish fishing port. Newlyn still in top five fishing ports - with largest fleet in UK The Cornishman

Not an assumption. That's the way it was when I left and it was fished out. I guess you never saw the Russian factory ship christened"The Black Ships". Loading every pound of smashed up fish sold to them for pet food. All you could catch afterwards was with tangle net depleting everything in sight. Mackerel were out but sardines had made comeback after a long ban. Really pleased to here its back up. Very ironic that my original Japanese Kendo no Sensei left Japan to live near Newlyn. I guess he gets great sashimi these days. My cottage made Cornish fisherman's sweaters have to be the best clothing I ever wore.

 

[Tez3]

Not an assumption. That's the way it was when I left and it was fished out. I guess you never saw the Russian factory ship christened"The Black Ships". Loading every pound of smashed up fish sold to them for pet food. All you could catch afterwards was with tangle net depleting everything in sight. Mackerel were out but sardines had made comeback after a long ban. Really pleased to here its back up. Very ironic that my original Japanese Kendo no Sensei left Japan to live near Newlyn. I guess he gets great sashimi these days. My cottage made Cornish fisherman's sweaters have to be the best clothing I ever wore.

Sorry the assumption remark is for PG, I did say for PG in my post. As you can see from his later post he thinks the UK doesn't like fishing. whatever the European quotas are now or whatever has happened the idea the UK 'don't like fishing' is absurd frankly.

 

[Tez3]

You go fishing? Interesting. I thought you wouldn't like fishing.

Why is it interesting? it's huge in the UK.

 

[elder999]

Why is it interesting? it's huge in the UK.

It's not that unusual that he'd "think fishing wasn't big in the UK,even though they're surrounded by water," if he just doesn't know......of course, the Pilgrims came to American shores with the intent of supplying cod to England.....fishing's always been part of your culture in one way or another. I mean, fly-fishing was invented there.....

I think that last post meant you personally, though.... that he didn't think you, Tez, would care for fishing....'cause, you know, you're a girl and all....

 

[Tez3]

Fishing is good enough for the Queen and the Royal Family so is more than good enough for the rest of us
The Queen Mother was a famous fly angler even Diana Princess of Wales used to fish.

 

[Tez3]

A book well worth buying.
The Compleat Angler Hardback Izaak Walton - Oxford University Press

 

[PhotonGuy]

Why is it interesting? it's huge in the UK.

You said you're against hunting because people take pleasure in it. Well, fishing is just like hunting except its done in the water and people take pleasure in it so therefore I would think you would be against fishing too.

 

[Tez3]

You said you're against hunting because people take pleasure in it. Well, fishing is just like hunting except its done in the water and people take pleasure in it so therefore I would think you would be against fishing too.

You are misquoting me son, I said I was against trophy hunting, the shooting of captive animals for pleasure, I didn't say I was against hunting. You have misunderstood what I was saying, true hunters are also against trophy hunting where animals bred or captured are driven in front of people to shoot.

 

[Transk53]

Well if you ask me I like to fish in the ocean best which means salt water, and from a boat is much better from than on shore.

Depends. Hooking a decent fish from a 12 foot beachcaster is quite satisfying

 

[Hyoho]

I will "always" remember my first days fishing. 42 golden carp, 2 roach and a tench. The spot had been well baited the day before. That was first and best day fishing in my entire life. Fresh water was fun but I would rather catch something I can eat. I eat a fair amount of sashimi. The fresher the better.

 

[Dr.Smith]

Never had a chance to get in the salt water, I fish almost everyday and this spring I've had fair success at the bass in my home town lake. Caught a five pounder a few days ago on a jerk bait I was fishing from the shore.

 

[PhotonGuy]

You are misquoting me son, I said I was against trophy hunting, the shooting of captive animals for pleasure, I didn't say I was against hunting. You have misunderstood what I was saying, true hunters are also against trophy hunting where animals bred or captured are driven in front of people to shoot.

I see, well than I misunderstood what you had said earlier. I don't care for shooting captive animals either but I see nothing wrong with shooting wild animals within the law of course since some animals you aren't allowed to shoot, there has to be controls to prevent species from being driven to extinction, and as long as you eat what you shoot or put it to good use instead of just shooting it for sport. Same with fishing.

I believe it was in a thread about hunting in Africa where you said you were against it. Not all of the hunting in Africa is trophy hunting and there are controls in place limiting what you can shoot and how much.

And there is trophy fishing too, where people mount the fish on the wall instead of eating it.

 

[PhotonGuy]

I will "always" remember my first days fishing. 42 golden carp, 2 roach and a tench. The spot had been well baited the day before. That was first and best day fishing in my entire life. Fresh water was fun but I would rather catch something I can eat. I eat a fair amount of sashimi. The fresher the better.

Wow, sounds like you had lots of fun. I once went fishing out in a boat where you rent a spot on the boat and a rod. That's my favorite kind of fishing, when you go out in a boat. Caught 3 fish but had to throw them back since they were below the size at which you could keep them.

 

[Hyoho]

Lol not much on catch and return. But where I am they are pulling groupers out of the sea 2" long. If that keeps up it will be fished out. At the moment its still mostly long lining so stocks do get a chance to replenish.

My friend decided to use an old style fishing pole with a thin line and no reel in the creek next to my house. He casted in with no bait to test the depth. Just a gold hook. Immediately he had a 15" koi on the line. took him an hour to land it!