Female instuctor....... For them or against them?

[Tez3]

That pretty well covers it. People cannot see the difference between the two. I think some guys have some dumb idea that if a woman teaches them a fighting art that it inherently makes them lesser or weaker. Machismo, I guess.

A trainer is a trainer. The trainer needs to be good at cultivating their students by assessing their strengths and weaknesses, understanding what motivates them, and utilizing training methods that are well suited to the student. The trainer can see things that the student is doing, both effectively and poorly, and can direct the student to correct poor technique and to further enhance already good technique.

The qualities of a good trainer are the same, irrespective of gender.

Daniel

They learn after you've choked them out/ put them into arm bars both straight and figure four/ ankle locked/knee barred or triangled them or all of the above, that hurts. Of course before that you drop them lol. Had to do it a couple of times, they either come back as good students or they don't come back. Of course there's advantages for a man in fighting a woman but like being old, one learns to be very sneaky! A dig in the ribs will make the guy wince enough to get that arm he's resisting down into the arm bar etc etc.
Two of my friends are female professional MMA fighters, both have fought here and in America, one of them in Japan. They are hugely respected by male fighters and Rosi in particular is a sought after training partner and takes seminars where the men flock to train. It tends not to be the gender that gets you respect in MMA here but the fact you will get into the cage and fight.

 

[Daniel Sullivan]

They learn after you've choked them out/ put them into arm bars both straight and figure four/ ankle locked/knee barred or triangled them or all of the above, that hurts. Of course before that you drop them lol.

But Tez, that is exactly what they want to avoid. Makes them feel less worthy of that manwich.

Daniel

 

[Tez3]

But Tez, that is exactly what they want to avoid. Makes them feel less worthy of that manwich.

Daniel

Ooops..... but then I'm just a middle aged female thug :ultracool

 

[StudentCarl]

That kind of ignorance is learned, and suggests that either the person doesn't think for themselves, their experience is horribly limited, or both.

The idea that a person's plumbing has any bearing on their quality as a Taekwondo instructor is ridiculous.

Now hair color, that's another story! Blonds can't teach.

 

[MA-Caver]

Looks like some are comparing two different things.

Women vs. Men in fighting or sparring
and
Women vs. Men in learning and then teaching

Exactly my point right there... the guy thinks that a woman teaching is a joke. What matters if she has the techniques down and can instruct them to another human being? It's that macho bullcrap thinking that set me off. I hate it because in reality it makes US look inferior for even thinking that way.

Ok, a difference in mass should affect how hard a person hits... but there is a lot more to it than power behind the strikes.
Which is what I was trying to convey behind the idea of a higher ranking female instructor sparring with this guy. She wouldn't HAVE to hit him hard just where she would hit him (read: pressure points) would still make him think twice about his attitude. Plus her skill/experience in blocking/countering all of that. He shouldn't even be able to GET a strike in.

Either way... it's a ****** attitude all around.

IMO in the ability of passing knowledge, there's no difference in one's sex. I would learn from either as long as they were qualified to do so.

 

[Thesemindz]

I attended a seminar taught by a Female Kenpo Black Belt at one of Mr. Speakman's Kenpo Camps named Ms. McVicar. I don't think I would be exaggerating much to say she was capable of beating the crap out of most of the men in the room. She was also a pretty good teacher. I learned a lot from that one seminar, which has informed my kenpo to this day.

When you quit concerning yourself with anything other than what someone teaches, and how they teach it, you open yourself up to a lot of possibilities. I'm far more concerned with my fellow martial artists' hygiene than their genitals.


-Rob

 

[Fing Fang Foom]

I attended a seminar taught by a Female Kenpo Black Belt at one of Mr. Speakman's Kenpo Camps named Ms. McVicar. I don't think I would be exaggerating much to say she was capable of beating the crap out of most of the men in the room. She was also a pretty good teacher. I learned a lot from that one seminar, which has informed my kenpo to this day.

When you quit concerning yourself with anything other than what someone teaches, and how they teach it, you open yourself up to a lot of possibilities. I'm far more concerned with my fellow martial artists' hygiene than their genitals.


-Rob

ROTFLMAO!!!!:lfao:

 

[terrylamar]

I've always said, "If you don't want to fight like a girl, don't train like a girl!"

 

[Lynne]

The guy who thought it was "a joke" is a narrow minded asswipe pig.

If the woman knows the same stuff as a qualified male instructor and she has the same qualifications as a male instructor... just what IS the difference? She got boobs and he don't?

Pretty stupid reason to think it's "a joke".

Tell ya what... challenge the guy to spar with a lady that is a couple of belts above him or at least a brown belt... then let him joke about it.

Maybe he has boobs bigger than hers and that's the problem.

 

[Lynne]

We have a very, very good female instructor at my dojang. Of course she was trained by one of the best male instructors, IMHO.

 

[Tez3]

I've always said, "If you don't want to fight like a girl, don't train like a girl!"

Er yeah right, I'm guessing then you haven't seen many girls training then.

 

[chrispillertkd]

A new "guy" was at the DoJang today. He was trying to tell one of the instructors he already had 2 years experience, and was just looking for "new training idea's"....

This should have been indication enough that the instructor whould have a chat with the new student and suggest that perhaps a new school, wherein he would be an actual student isn't what he's looking for. I'd hazard to say it certainly isn't what the instructor would want.

Among some of the "fella's" though, he said his previous DoJang just hired a female BB instructor, and to him; "that is a joke".

One of the owners of my school is a woman (they are a husband and wife team). I've trained with her and other female black belt instructors since day one. In my experience they can hang with the men as far as hard training is concerned with no problem what so ever. They also tend to have, in general, a more technically analytical approach to training. That means they can at times offer insights that many men will overlook since they'll try to "muscle through" something to make it work. (These are generalizations, of course, but I've found them to be fairly accurate.) In other words, to dismiss women as instructors out of hand - or anyone, for that matter - is short sighted and unhelpful.

Everyone has something to teach others. Part of the Student/Instructor Relationship says that in order to be a good student one must be willing to "Learn any place, any time. This is the sdecret to knowledge."

Is this a common thought amongst "male" TKD students???

Not in my experience. I have seen it, but not often. When I see it at my instructors' school - and it's only ever in new students who haven't met or trained with the female black belts there - I let them know that their attitude won't fly and that it's simply incorrect.

Pax,

Chris

 

[StudentCarl]

They also tend to have, in general, a more technically analytical approach to training. That means they can at times offer insights that many men will overlook since they'll try to "muscle through" something to make it work.

I've found this to be true with women in many physical pursuits, and think it makes them better instructors and better students too. In my experience, most women also lack the ego issues that some men have, where men expect to be superior and become frustrated when they don't catch on right away.

 

[Fing Fang Foom]

OMG, almost forgot to mention it.... Have an update on this "female instructor hater".

Heres the scoop!..... Well I guess for some reason He is not allowed to wear the same belt that he claims to have had until he is 'tested' or sumthin'.... Well, he claims to be a 'newly dubbed red belt', but I almost fell out of my seat watching him... There are 10 year old green belts that are better at poomse (sp), and kicking, etc etc then he was last night!
Sounds to me like this joker is a bag of hot air if you ask me LMAO!!!!!

 

[Cirdan]

OMG, almost forgot to mention it.... Have an update on this "female instructor hater".

Heres the scoop!..... Well I guess for some reason He is not allowed to wear the same belt that he claims to have had until he is 'tested' or sumthin'.... Well, he claims to be a 'newly dubbed red belt', but I almost fell out of my seat watching him... There are 10 year old green belts that are better at poomse (sp), and kicking, etc etc then he was last night!
Sounds to me like this joker is a bag of hot air if you ask me LMAO!!!!!

I know the kind... they show up for a few classes, then suddenly get too "busy" with work or something, or some mysterious old injury prevents them from showing up at class. After a few months they will be back for a class or two, all excited and eager to tell you all about the special secret spetnaz death system they trained in while on vacation.

As for female instructors, the best teachers I`ve met in Karate and Kenjutsu were women. (Jujutsu and Kali goes to the guys tho )
When I spar with someone, age size and skill level are factors deciding how hard we go. Sex is not.

 

[sfs982000]

From personal experience my former Shotokan instructor was a female and to this day was the absolute best instructor I ever had. She could certainly hold her own and 99.9% of the time best males alot larger than her in sparring.

 

[Stac3y]

Am one. I am FOR me.

 

[jthomas1600]

I don't necessarily think it's wrong to prefer a male instructor. It depends on why I suppose. I might think that a man in his 30's due to hormones and our culture would be more aggressive and competitive than a female of the same age (of course this is not an absolute) and this might influence their style of instruction so maybe I think the male teacher suits my needs/goals best. Contrarily, a female instructor (if she's statistically average in height and weight) will probably have spent more time in her ma career facing bigger and stronger opponants and so it's possible if not likely that she will have a better understanding of the technique, leverage, footwork etc. required to beat physically superior opponents. This last may make some decide a female instructor would be preferable for them.

If you don't want to train under a female just because....well, that's just stupid.

 

[Gorilla]

The quality of instructor is solely based on the integrity, passion, knowledge, skill and aptitude for teaching. The gender of an instructor has nothing to do with it. Those who make decisions based on gender will miss out on allot of knowledge and this will be the punishment for their faulty thought process.

I have met several Female Instructors who have given me a perspective that I did not even think to have. Thank GOD that I did not dismiss them out of hand because they were women.

Biased thinking is its own punishment. I have a daughter and I would hate to think that anyone would dismiss her because she is a women(I know that it will happen! Sad!). In the end if they did it would be their loss.

 

[hal-apino]

A new "guy" was at the DoJang today. He was trying to tell one of the instructors he already had 2 years experience, and was just looking for "new training idea's"....

Among some of the "fella's" though, he said his previous DoJang just hired a female BB instructor, and to him; "that is a joke".

Is this a common thought amongst "male" TKD students???

It should not be and it's far from being true. In fact this sport needs more woman as intructors. We also need to see a Female National Coach that travels to ALL events. What is sad is that we have a Female Independent BOD on our NGB that feels that this sport is a male dominating sport and also that it should be run by men. This is just as stupid as saying it's a joke to have a female Instuctor. What is a Joke is that people say stupid things like this!