Feels impossible

[Goldleaf]

Hi,

Training 5 and half months Kickboxing. 4 sessions a week and each session of 50 minutes.

Once a week dutch drills with partner and 3 times a week heavy bag drills.

I know i Progressed a little and maybe it is now plateau.

But just want to ask how people think here.

I feel like it is very difficult and complicated at this point.

It feels like very exhausting and it feels like i learned a tiny little and there is 99% ahead. It feels like an depression. Can someone relate or had this and why is this so?

 

[Pooja Gulati]

Maybe try a martial art?

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

There is 99% ahead. You haven't even been training a year yet, you're just now getting the foundations.

I will say though, that based on your other post it sounds closer to a cardio kickboxing class than a combat kickboxing class. Spending all that time working a heavy bag, with very little technique training, and no sparring after half a year, seems off.

 

[drop bear]

 

[Buka]

 

[JowGaWolf]

Hi,

Training 5 and half months Kickboxing. 4 sessions a week and each session of 50 minutes.

So, here's a reality check. This seems like a lot of training time but it's not.

To put it into perspective. Professional fighters train 4 to 6 hours a day, six days a week. One day of training equals one week of training for you.

Kids play video games for longer hours in a day than you train. 1 game of call of duty is almost 1 hour of game play and that one hour of game play will seem like you haven't done much. This is what 1 hour of kung fu training feel like to me. That I haven't done much.

I think you would have a different perspective if you trained for 2 hours 5 days a week. When you go back to the 1 hour worth of training you will feel as if you haven't done much.

It feels like very exhausting and it feels like i learned a tiny little and there is 99% ahead. It feels like an depression.

The reason you feel like this is because you simply haven't done a lot to feel any other way. Most of the people have put in more than just the one hour training from the class.

This is why it's best not to compare yourself to other students in the class. People make the assumption that other's only train for 1 hour but they advance faster. What they don't see is the training they do outside of class. If you have one hour of training in class then you should have one hour of training outside of class

 

[Goldleaf]

There is 99% ahead. You haven't even been training a year yet, you're just now getting the foundations.

I will say though, that based on your other post it sounds closer to a cardio kickboxing class than a combat kickboxing class. Spending all that time working a heavy bag, with very little technique training, and no sparring after half a year, seems off.

Hi,

Yes, i mean on the heavy bag i train technique and power and trying to do flawless combo's??? that is not only cardio and once a week dutch technique drills. Or am i wrong

 

[Goldleaf]

So, here's a reality check. This seems like a lot of training time but it's not.

To put it into perspective. Professional fighters train 4 to 6 hours a day, six days a week. One day of training equals one week of training for you.

Kids play video games for longer hours in a day than you train. 1 game of call of duty is almost 1 hour of game play and that one hour of game play will seem like you haven't done much. This is what 1 hour of kung fu training feel like to me. That I haven't done much.

I think you would have a different perspective if you trained for 2 hours 5 days a week. When you go back to the 1 hour worth of training you will feel as if you haven't done much.


The reason you feel like this is because you simply haven't done a lot to feel any other way. Most of the people have put in more than just the one hour training from the class.

This is why it's best not to compare yourself to other students in the class. People make the assumption that other's only train for 1 hour but they advance faster. What they don't see is the training they do outside of class. If you have one hour of training in class then you should have one hour of training outside of class

Sounds good. But what i see that th Kickboxing Claessen in Kickboxing gyms here are 45 to 60 minutes maximum. I know that professional do train 20 hours a day

 

[Goldleaf]

So, here's a reality check. This seems like a lot of training time but it's not.

To put it into perspective. Professional fighters train 4 to 6 hours a day, six days a week. One day of training equals one week of training for you.

Kids play video games for longer hours in a day than you train. 1 game of call of duty is almost 1 hour of game play and that one hour of game play will seem like you haven't done much. This is what 1 hour of kung fu training feel like to me. That I haven't done much.

I think you would have a different perspective if you trained for 2 hours 5 days a week. When you go back to the 1 hour worth of training you will feel as if you haven't done much.


The reason you feel like this is because you simply haven't done a lot to feel any other way. Most of the people have put in more than just the one hour training from the class.

This is why it's best not to compare yourself to other students in the class. People make the assumption that other's only train for 1 hour but they advance faster. What they don't see is the training they do outside of class. If you have one hour of training in class then you should have one hour of training outside of class

I did do 4 years kung fu.
Comparing kung fu to Kickboxing drills or heavy bag is not good.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Sounds good. But what i see that th Kickboxing Claessen in Kickboxing gyms here are 45 to 60 minutes maximum. I know that professional do train 20 hours a day

If you only train 45 to 60 minutes a day then why would you expect to get the same progress and results that come from someone who trains more than 60 minutes a day?

 

[JowGaWolf]

Comparing kung fu to Kickboxing drills or heavy bag is not good.

It's a good comparison because it's going to break down into hours of training on heavy bag. The more hours you spend to training on the heavy bag the better you get.

compare how many hours a week you spend on the heavy bag vs how many hours you spent on the heavy bag when you trained kung fu. Training in general is a number of hours+quality formula. The more hours you spend doing quality training the faster you'll progress and the easier it will be.

 

[Goldleaf]

Sorry, i am not comparing anything or saying that i should make more progress then someone who trains hours a day.

I just want some advice and open conversation.

I think i have the same feeling, but then why here the Kickboxing classes are only 45-60 minutes. I did check the top (kick) boxing gyms

 

[Kung Fu Wang]

It feels like very exhausting and it feels like i learned a tiny little and there is 99% ahead. It feels like an depression. Can someone relate or had this and why is this so?

At the end of your training, if you still feel like you want to train more, but you force yourself not to. That's the right amount of training for that day.

One year I trained too hard. 3 months passed by just like 1 day. I was exhausted 24/7 in that 3 months. That's a big waste of life in my opinion.

 

[JowGaWolf]

I think i have the same feeling, but then why here the Kickboxing classes are only 45-60 minutes

This is more a business time frame than a training one. If you open a gym, what is the maximum time that most people are willing to spend training? Most people have an hour out of their day where they can travel to a location and train. It's actually more than an hour if you include travel time. If you make the class for more than one hour then you'll have people walking out because they have other responsibilities.

One hour is also good because you can get more people into the class by limiting the class to just an hour. The one hour classes for martial arts are based on business and consideration of the student's time. When I train 2 hours it's because I don't really have anything that I need to do during that 2nd hour. If I use my lunch time for training then I can only afford 3O minutes' worth of training if I travel to the gym or 1 hour of training if I train at home.

 

[JowGaWolf]

Sorry, i am not comparing anything or saying that i should make more progress then someone who trains hours a day.

I just want some advice and open conversation.

I think i have the same feeling, but then why here the Kickboxing classes are only 45-60 minutes. I did check the top (kick) boxing gyms

Sorry for my misunderstanding

 

[Goldleaf]

This is more a business time frame than a training one. If you open a gym, what is the maximum time that most people are willing to spend training? Most people have an hour out of their day where they can travel to a location and train. It's actually more than an hour if you include travel time. If you make the class for more than one hour then you'll have people walking out because they have other responsibilities.

One hour is also good because you can get more people into the class by limiting the class to just an hour. The one hour classes for martial arts are based on business and consideration of the student's time. When I train 2 hours it's because I don't really have anything that I need to do during that 2nd hour. If I use my lunch time for training then I can only afford 3O minutes' worth of training if I travel to the gym or 1 hour of training if I train at home.

Very good! Indeed! That sounds good.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

Hi,

Yes, i mean on the heavy bag i train technique and power and trying to do flawless combo's??? that is not only cardio and once a week dutch technique drills. Or am i wrong

I am saying that the type of class sounds like a cardio based class. Spending once every 4-5 classes learning drills, an hour on the bag most times, and no sparring does not sound like a normal martial kickboxing class to me.

 

[Goldleaf]

I am saying that the type of class sounds like a cardio based class. Spending once every 4-5 classes learning drills, an hour on the bag most times, and no sparring does not sound like a normal martial kickboxing class to me.

Indeed, that is also my thought! I am thinking to change the gym. But because it is on 2 minutes walk distance i am still going.

Because it is an small gym with just maximum of 12 students each time. He has twice a week dutch drills, but only once we get through because not enough people who want it. Majority goes for heavy bag. There is also no sparring thing. There is gym 2km away which has twice a week Technique drills and once week sparring.

All are 50 minutes classes still

 

[JowGaWolf]

I am saying that the type of class sounds like a cardio based class. Spending once every 4-5 classes learning drills, an hour on the bag most times, and no sparring does not sound like a normal martial kickboxing class to me.

The gym that I go to has a boxing class. They do all of the boxing drills and mit work but they don't spar unless they ask the person who is running the class to spar. Then they pay a separate fee for sparring. They refer to it as personal training and not part of the actual boxing class. If people want more than the boxing class, then it's extra. The extra part is hourly based, which could be expensive to get in enough sparring time.

He has twice a week dutch drills, but only once we get through because not enough people who want it. Majority goes for heavy bag. There is also no sparring thing. There is gym 2km away which has twice a week Technique drills and once week sparring.

wow only 2 hours a week? Is iit one hour for training and one hour for sparring? There must not be a lot of interest for martial arts in that area.

 

[Haruhiko]

It feels like very exhausting and it feels like i learned a tiny little and there is 99% ahead. It feels like an depression. Can someone relate or had this and why is this so?

You may be over training, and rest is as important (especially in striking arts like kickboxing) as training, especially as you're a beginner. Your muscles might not be given time to recover, and your brain likewise.