evenflow1121
2nd Black Belt
I think he is referred to as Buddha Dharma in some Indian regions, someone can correct me on this if I a happen to be wrong.
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Andrew Green said:If your stuff stands on its own merit get rid of the rank and title in your profile and user name and let it. be a "nobody" and let your words speak for you, not your rank and title.
evenflow1121 said:I think he is referred to as Buddha Dharma in some Indian regions, someone can correct me on this if I a happen to be wrong.
Words of wisdom in this post..Andrew Green said:If your stuff stands on its own merit get rid of the rank and title in your profile and user name and let it. "10th dan Soke" sets off red flags for most people, and for good reason. But prove us wrong, be a "nobody" and let your words speak for you, not your rank and title.
True.47MartialMan said:I guess that depends on where those 20 have origins. Pro-life-pro choice,,,,Theology/Atheism...
Me? As to the rest, I don't know. Does it matter?20 people? Any non-Japanese martial artists think so?
There is "American" English and "English" English.If I don't live in England, I cant speak English? One word can't mean two diferrent things? Can a word be butchered to take on a whole new meaning? Is there such a thing as slang? Are slang words correct words or cannot be used?
So, if all my friends and peers think I'm the Son of God...I am?If individuals around him, be it separate from his own creation, his surrounding peers, believe so, then he believes so.
You are probably more knowledgeable on this stuff than I am so I take your word for it and I stand corrected.Akashiro Tamaya said:Bodhidama is what history knows him as as. I have never heard of Buddha Dharma.
Actually there are lots of historical examples of Buddhist monks being warriors or learning/teaching martial ways. Especially in Japan and Korea, but also in China and elsewhere.47MartialMan said:Factual data that there were "fighting monks" may not be total truth. I have read that there were so many renegades, rebels, amd the like given sanctuary there, they many were in cognito as monks. Making others believe that there were fighting monks.
Given the structure of Buddhism, why would Buddhist monks desire to fight?
It looks like it does.Bester said:Me? As to the rest, I don't know. Does it matter?.
I could stand corrected, but isnt a "fag" in England a cigarette to as one in the US is homosexual? Hmmmn.......Bester said:There is "American" English and "English" English.
We are not talking about slang, we are talking about traditional titles being misused. "Soke" is Japanese, not English. In Japan, the word does NOT mean "Founder" which these fools keep incorrectly claiming it does. Stating it repeatedly does not change that fact anymore than calling a clear lemon-lime carbonated beverage "Coke" makes it a cola..
I have to agree. but then again many misuse English, French, Spanish as well. Shall I say that my hispanic freind cannot speak Spanish because he is not from Spain? That his Spanish should not have cultural/word differences? For sure, if he had traveled to Spain, many would think that he is misusing Spanish...HmmmnnnBester said:Most of these title happy fools aren't teaching Asian arts.
So why do they insist on misusing Asian words? .
Careful. You are speaking of the subject of religion. Many have made their followers think so.Bester said:So, if all my friends and peers think I'm the Son of God...I am?
Cool..
I agree. Better to be newly created-original than to label Coca-Cola as PepsiBester said:Mr. Calkins, as well as many others may be excellent martial artists. Where they run into problems is the misuse of foriegn words and titles to add some sense of 'mystisism' to their programs.
Calling it "Fugu-Ryu, taught by Kami-Soke" is "mysterious, but pompous.
Calling it "Calm of the Storm School, Mr. Kami - Founder and Head Instructor", thats in english, no pompous, but still has that little 'mystisism we all like...
So they cant be a "sensei"?Bester said:The problem I have with these 'people', is that you talk to them, and it's "This is Sensei Joe", or "My name is Soke Smith". As we said, 1 WNY school has 107 "Senseis" on staff, most not old enough to shave, or even stay up past 8pm. ..
Very true. But lets not get into harsh bashing like other forums. Lets remain opposing. but polite.Bester said:Too much misuse of titles, to much disinformation being passed out by these hacks. Too much ego to admit that in the face of truth, that they were wrong. I think that is the true measure of these people. They simply can't accept that "everything they know is wrong", so they either go to great measures to validate themselves (write letters, publish a book series, etc) or they run back to their little backwoodstowns where they can be the "big kar-ate master", impressing a bunch of rednecks, who simply don't know any better.
ginshun said:I am still waiting for more info on the Black Star Ninjitsu school in the Texas town that doesn't exist.
What if they had studied both, would it be Sen-fu?Kaith Rustaz said:My 2cents:
They can be a sensei...if they teach a Japanese art.
Sifu if it's Chinese, etc..
How can it be so if there are other arts/foundations involved?Kaith Rustaz said:It's an American art? fine. Use an American title...
What about college "Professor Smith". Why use "professor" or Dr Smith-why use Dr.? Why use any word to link skill, profession, exepreince? Why use Mr. or Miss. or Mrs.? In school, it is because they did not have Japanese/Chinese/Cultural influences like martial arts have. The fact you were in a American school that did not have cultural links/interst to martial arts, may not use such wording. If I went to a American school and ask anyone what is Karate some would say it is Asian/Oriental Fighting. When I ask where did it come from, some may ot may not know. Terminology/wording is picked up scantly from sources, such as media. But using them in reference is wrong? Say such a school was teaching something culturely such as Spanish. No teachers or students would go around using the word terms even out of context?Kaith Rustaz said:Then again, for all the time I spent in school, I never had my teachers introduce themselves as "Teacher Smith". It was always mr or mrs.
But were they true Buddhists?Brother John said:Actually there are lots of historical examples of Buddhist monks being warriors or learning/teaching martial ways. Especially in Japan and Korea, but also in China and elsewhere.
Your Brother
John
[size=-1]gazuntheit!47MartialMan said:What if they had studied both, would it be Sen-fu?
Then use the terms that best fir the largest core of things. Also, don't make light of the contribution of the core, and be damn certain you have it understood before doing so. Not understanding the real definition of certain terms will cause you problems later on.[/size]How can it be so if there are other arts/foundations involved?
Then educate them. I can't recall the last time I found someone who did NOT know what "self defence", "personal protection" or "fighting techniques" meant. In the english speaking world, "teacher", "instructor" and "tutor" are pretty common.Ok, the sign outside my school is "Rich's School of Defense Study".
Would that make the common wealth understand by passing it better than Rich's School of Karate or Rich's Karate School? Believe it or not, most of the Occidental common wealth associate Japanese/Chinese/Asian cultural terms to mean something. Any many do not fully understand the English term - "Martial Arts"
Professor: [size=-1]The highest academic rank on a college or university faculty. In descending order, the other ranks are associate professor, assistant professor, and instructor.What about college "Professor Smith". Why use "professor" or Dr Smith-why use Dr.?
I'll only say this 10,000 more times before I die....[/size]Why use any word to link skill, profession, exepreince? Why use Mr. or Miss. or Mrs.? In school, it is because they did not have Japanese/Chinese/Cultural influences like martial arts have.
Sure they would. But I would hope that once corrected by those who do know better, that they would improve.The fact you were in a American school that did not have cultural links/interst to martial arts, may not use such wording. If I went to a American school and ask anyone what is Karate some would say it is Asian/Oriental Fighting. When I ask where did it come from, some may ot may not know. Terminology/wording is picked up scantly from sources, such as media. But using them in reference is wrong? Say such a school was teaching something culturely such as Spanish. No teachers or students would go around using the word terms even out of context?
Culture. Same reason why I call my grandfather "Pop-Pop" I supose. (He's my pops, pop, y'know? )Here is a thought, why do some Chinese call elder friends "uncle"?
were christians fighting in the crusades true christians?47MartialMan said:But were they true Buddhists?
Gets back to the term of real...BlackCatBonz said:were christians fighting in the crusades true christians?