Doc, Can you answer this question?

[CoolKempoDude]

John Bishop,

thank you very much for your info. Holy smoke, i didn't know Mitose this BAD

unbelievable and unimagination for what Mitose had done. It looks like a full SCAM

if this is true, i don't want him in Kempo/kenpo linear/tree any more

the truth is really shocking and i have a hard time swallowing this.

 

[rmcrobertson]

I'll write it again: "This thing of darknes, I acknowledge mine." We don't get to go back and scrub this stuff we don't care for out of history.

 

[Seig]

Actually it is a good example of what can happen when people follow someone blindly. One of the underlying themes of Mr. Parker's kenpo is to learn to think for yourself. I will not debate wether or not Mitose is in our lineage or not. The fact is that his name is assosciated with Kenpo, he commited a heinous act, one of his students commited a heinous act in his name. The morale here is to use "Logic" and make sure that sort of thing never happens again.

 

[rmcrobertson]

I'm wit' Seig, if he doesn't mind excessively.

It's Nietszche's point: "There is no document of history that is not also, at the same time, a document of barbarism." The point is to take the past as a warning...and as a reminder not to be too damn proud, since your actions--living, as we do, in an uncivilized time--will always have that taint.

But then, I believe we all recollect the response to Howard Johnson's quoting of Nietszche in "Blazing Saddles...."

 

[CoolKempoDude]

since i join MT, i learn a lot about kenpo

i learn all of its because of you. You guys are the best source for information and research.

Keep all the good stuffs coming.

Continue sharing with each other

thank you for sharing that with me
:asian: artyon:

 

[kkbb]

I also was curious about Mitose.... You guys just shed alot of light.

What I find annoying though, is because this man had questionable judgement, people are quick to dismiss his positive accomplishments. There are a number of "bad" people in the world that have created or passed on wonderful things. If Mitose had not met Chow, & Chow had not met Parker...where would we be?
:asian:

 

[Seig]

Originally posted by kkbb
I also was curious about Mitose.... You guys just shed alot of light.

What I find annoying though, is because this man had questionable judgement, people are quick to dismiss his positive accomplishments. There are a number of "bad" people in the world that have created or passed on wonderful things. If Mitose had not met Chow, & Chow had not met Parker...where would we be?
:asian:

That assumes (always a dangerous thing) that Chow only learned from Mitose, not true.

 

[CoolKempoDude]

i just wonder if we have a thread about Chow in this forum. I'm looking for a Chow's thread which was discussed about this man EXTENSIVELY and THROUGHLY.

this man is an important man in Kempo/Kenpo

perhaps, it is no good to go there ?????

if yes, pls point. Thanks

 

[Touch Of Death]

Originally posted by CoolKempoDude
i just wonder if we have a thread about Chow in this forum. I'm looking for a Chow's thread which was discussed about this man EXTENSIVELY and THROUGHLY.

this man is an important man in Kempo/Kenpo

perhaps, it is no good to go there ?????

if yes, pls point. Thanks

Please do, I am sorry for trying to hinder you ealier. I was out of line :asian: .
Sean

 

[arnisador]

Originally posted by CoolKempoDude
i just wonder if we have a thread about Chow in this forum.

Some relevant threads, though I don't think any of them will give you exactly what you want:

http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5566
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=901
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1951
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7782

 

[CoolKempoDude]

Originally posted by arnisador
Some relevant threads, though I don't think any of them will give you exactly what you want:

http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=5566
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=901
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1951
http://www.martialtalk.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7782

thank you very much for the link and you are right.

i want more than these

Bishop, if you or somebody else researched about this man, please post here.

thank you

 

[CoolKempoDude]

Originally posted by Touch'O'Death
Please do, I am sorry for trying to hinder you ealier. I was out of line :asian: .
Sean

no problem. No hard feeling:asian:

 

[Brother John]

Originally posted by rmcrobertson
Do I have this story wrong? Did Mr. Mitose not die in San Q?

Sorry, but if I am wrong I'll certainly apologize. But I don't see how it's "smearing," anybody to mention the facts about them...especially given the context, and especially given the propensity of kenpo people to argue about honor and about history.

I might add that I don't see, either, why Mr. Chap'el should drop what he's doing to explain/document something that can easily get looked up.

Sorry Robert, I don't have a lot of skills in looking up legal data.
I go with my Grandfather's advice....
ask those who were there.
While Mr. Chapel may not have been "There", he was definitely more "there" than I.
I didn't mean to rankle so many by trying to help CKD on this point of historical fact.

Your Brother
John