Billions wasted in Iraq

[MA-Caver]

I see trees of green, red roses too
I see them bloom for me and you
And I think to myself what a wonderful world.

I see skies of blue and clouds of white
The bright blessed day, the dark sacred night
And I think to myself what a wonderful world.

The colors of the rainbow so pretty in the sky
Are also on the faces of people going by
I see friends shaking hands saying how do you do
They're really saying I love you.

I hear babies crying, I watch them grow
They'll learn much more than I'll never know
And I think to myself what a wonderful world
Yes I think to myself what a wonderful world.

(apologies to Mr. Armstrong for I'm sure it's not what he intended the song to be... sarcasm in it's thickest)...

 

[Tez3]

U.S. aid to Jamaica,2006-11, $21 million.

You can find U.S. aid for the same period for every country in Latin America and the Caribbean, here

I wasn't saying they weren't getting aid, it was the fact that all West Indians among others were being accused of being dishonest that annoyed me. Dangerous it is, to make generalisations.

 

[zDom]

ROFL Yeah, I mean they have some real nerve, getting invaded by us and not being grateful for it! Since they haven't shown enough gratitude we should take thier oil!! ...and people wonder why we have a bad reputation among many around the world.

It wasn't so long ago that wars ended with the winner taking the spoils. Not so long before that the victorious country took slaves, as well.

Does anybody recall who started this whole benevolent conqueror trend?

It was US, the U.S., who started it.

So all those people who don't like us around the world can **** off for all I care.

Personally, I think we should bring back imperialism. They will never like us. Few will respect us. We should make them fear us and thank their gods that we don't crush them underfoot.

How ya like them apples?

 

[zDom]

I believe a lot of American companies however have done very well out of Iraq.

I don't approve of these power broker robber barons making obscene profits while the taxpayers pay for the war.

This, too, is a load of crap.

I don't blame "the world" if they hate our government. I don't much care for how they are acting either for the last 50 years or so.

But if they want to hate Americans, **** 'em. Their leaders are all as much crooks as ours are.

 

[Tez3]

It wasn't so long ago that wars ended with the winner taking the spoils. Not so long before that the victorious country took slaves, as well.

Does anybody recall who started this whole benevolent conqueror trend?

It was US, the U.S., who started it.

So all those people who don't like us around the world can **** off for all I care.

Personally, I think we should bring back imperialism. They will never like us. Few will respect us. We should make them fear us and thank their gods that we don't crush them underfoot.

How ya like them apples?

Been there, seen it, done it, got the t shirt.

At least all the empires before were honest about why they invaded, they never said it was for the invaded country's own good!
It's too Monty Pythonish, 'we are invading you to liberate you from your government/leaders that we don't like, we've sold them loads of arms which we know they'll use against us but as we aren't friends anymore and the President needs a good press, we'll invade you and make things really lousy for you, that'll teach you to be our friends won't it!'

 

[Empty Hands]

At least all the empires before were honest about why they invaded, they never said it was for the invaded country's own good!

Sure they did. The Spaniards were going to bring the Light of God to the ignorant heathens. The British were going to bring civilization. The Americans were going to bring freedom. Etc, etc, etc. Look to Kipling's "White Man's Burden" for an example.

 

[Tez3]

Sure they did. The Spaniards were going to bring the Light of God to the ignorant heathens. The British were going to bring civilization. The Americans were going to bring freedom. Etc, etc, etc. Look to Kipling's "White Man's Burden" for an example.

Yeah that was Kipling the spin doctor who bitterly regretted his words after his son was killed in the First World War. Britain knew it was invading for profits, land and power, any 'civilising' was considered a by product not the purpose of empire building.

 

[Ken Morgan]

Been there, seen it, done it, got the t shirt.

At least all the empires before were honest about why they invaded, they never said it was for the invaded country's own good!
It's too Monty Pythonish, 'we are invading you to liberate you from your government/leaders that we don't like, we've sold them loads of arms which we know they'll use against us but as we aren't friends anymore and the President needs a good press, we'll invade you and make things really lousy for you, that'll teach you to be our friends won't it!'

Well..."What have the Romans ever done for us?"

 

[Tez3]

Well..."What have the Romans ever done for us?"

Exactly!

The British Empire only 'civilised' the natives to make it easier to control, rip off and generally manage the Empire. I wonder what things would be like now if America hadn't rebelled lol! :uhyeah:

 

[WC_lun]

If you are looking for a country or region to be thankful that they got invaded, you are seriously delusional. Turn it around. What if China invaded the US for our "own good" or to give us "freedom." Even if we had some insane Hitleresque president that action would be greeted by the bussiness end of a gun with many of you holding the other end. By what reason should the reactions of a person in a country we invaded be any different? Because we are the US and have been shown to be so benevolant? Horse apples.

 

[zDom]

If you are looking for a country or region to be thankful that they got invaded, you are seriously delusional. Turn it around. What if China invaded the US for our "own good" or to give us "freedom." Even if we had some insane Hitleresque president that action would be greeted by the bussiness end of a gun with many of you holding the other end. By what reason should the reactions of a person in a country we invaded be any different? Because we are the US and have been shown to be so benevolant? Horse apples.

I guess it would depend on if I was part of the oppressive majority (ethnic or religious, take yer pic) or one of the minority factions living in fear of my government.


I just wish Missouri would get invaded by the United States. We sure could use the hospitals, roads, bridges, etc. etc. etc. that are getting built with taxpayer money.

 

[zDom]

I just wish Missouri would get invaded by the United States. We sure could use the hospitals, roads, bridges, etc. etc. etc. that are getting built with taxpayer money.

BTW.. that was just rhetoric. Seeing as we Missourians have voted to reject Obamacare, this may be much more likely than you would think

 

[WC_lun]

BTW.. that was just rhetoric. Seeing as we Missourians have voted to reject Obamacare, this may be much more likely than you would think

Considering that I'm in need of a life saving transplant that I can't get because I can't pay for it and can't get insurance to pay for it because I've had a transplant previously, I'll welcome Obamacare, if I live long enough to see it to fruitition. I know, that makes me an evil leftist socialist.

 

[zDom]

Considering that I'm in need of a life saving transplant that I can't get because I can't pay for it and can't get insurance to pay for it because I've had a transplant previously, I'll welcome Obamacare, if I live long enough to see it to fruitition. I know, that makes me an evil leftist socialist.

I sincerely hope it works out for you. I think socialized medicine might actually work if we weren't paying for insurance companies and lottery-win lawsuits.


I've got nothing against folk who need medical coverage getting treated. I just don't want to go to jail because I am unable to afford to buy insurance.