Best kicks for average folks

[quasar44]

Hmm..., was teaching 'tee shirt' chokes yesterday to a group self defense class. Had 3 men who all said they believed the ladies could not put them out with a choke. All had tee shirts on. The 3rd decided not to attempt it after seeing the other 2 choked unconscious by a lady using the man's tee shirt. Not a single tee shirt was ripped...stretched a bit but not ripped. But then of course it wasn't you being choked.

 

[quasar44]

Hmm..., was teaching 'tee shirt' chokes yesterday to a group self defense class. Had 3 men who all said they believed the ladies could not put them out with a choke. All had tee shirts on. The 3rd decided not to attempt it after seeing the other 2 choked unconscious by a lady using the man's tee shirt. Not a single tee shirt was ripped...stretched a bit but not ripped. But then of course it wasn't you being choked.

Was this BJJ ??

 

[quasar44]

She won’t choke me out as I have free hands that can make it complex
Rear naked , gable or triangle yes , she can choke me out

No way a random person is going to choke me out

 

[Tez3]

You can be decent in striking in 1 yr

Grappling is 2-4 yrs

 

[drop bear]

You can’t choke me in my T-shirt , the fabric would rip !!!
You can put me in a sloppy rear naked and it will work .
The gable grip choke is very effective as blood or air
The one arm choke is hard to pull of

Generally it is not a cross collar choke which is the one you might be thinking of. But a kind of loop choke?

And yeah I just choked out ten guys this morning with their stringlets isn't very helpful.

So even if you are adamant no gi. That is still a choke worth learning.

 

[drop bear]

To be clear, he trained krav for 5 years, just felt he learned it all after 18 months.

That sounds fair. How many gun disarms do you really need?

 

[Headhunter]

Was this BJJ ??

A choke is a choke no matter what label you put on it

 

[drop bear]

A choke is a choke no matter what label you put on it

Not really it is more a conditioning question.

There are some system that will tap out to a knee ride.

 

[quasar44]

That sounds fair. How many gun disarms do you really need?

I don’t want to ever test that lol
Krav is mostly things like Hammer fists, Palm strikes and chops

 

[quasar44]

I may freeze uk with a gun at me
I don’t know

I may save the day or just freeze up
I don’t want to know and a knife is just as bad along with a club

 

[quasar44]

Krav is a perfect starter system !!!

 

[quasar44]

I really hope you never have occasion to see how wrong you are.

I see it’s from the gracies -,then I admit I am wrong
Those guys know every submission ever invented plus 10 variations if they don’t work
Very high IQ family

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

She won’t choke me out as I have free hands that can make it complex
Rear naked , gable or triangle yes , she can choke me out

No way a random person is going to choke me out

If you really believe that a women you do not know has no possible way of choking you out, you're lacking a lot of experience.

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

I can get out of rear mount if the guy knows zero BJJ very easily and stop a choke from a non trained man

Are you training with the idea that you will only ever be attacked by someone without training/experience?

 

[Monkey Turned Wolf]

You can be decent in striking in 1 yr

Grappling is 2-4 yrs

Decent compared to whom?

 

[quasar44]

Decent compared to whom?

compared to 90 percent of public with little to no training

 

[quasar44]

Are you training with the idea that you will only ever be attacked by someone without training/experience?

No
It’s more into the hobby stage for me than self def

 

[Buka]

You can’t choke me in my T-shirt , the fabric would rip !!!
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My brother, if you ever make it out to Maui....bring a T-shirt.

 

[Headhunter]

No
It’s more into the hobby stage for me than self def

Except when I said to you it was a hobby you said no it's more than a hobby....

 

[Tez3]

No way a random person is going to choke me out

Said the guy as he fell unconscious, oh yes I've had that before and I've choked quite a few guys out who said I couldn't, I've also made them submit, broke one guy's arm, accidently , when he wouldn't submit to a woman. And I'm not even that good, my friend Rosi is much much better, as is another friend Lisa they both teach men who will wait months to get into their seminars and classes. I know quite a lot of women who can choke and submit people without too much effort.

Very high IQ family

That sounds familiar but as I'm not getting into politics I'll refrain from saying more but it's clear you haven't met many of them, they are very good at what they do, well, it is the family business ( or perhaps you don't know why it's called BJJ), a high IQ has nothing to do with it.

compared to 90 percent of public with little to no training

Many muggers, thugs etc have no training in martial arts but will take you out every time. Relying on the fact you 'have training' but without practice is a dangerous road to take. Krav Maga can be great, depends on who is teaching, many places are rip offs these days but you still need the constant repetition of techniques to make them instinctive and can use them immediately if you are attacked.

Krav is a perfect starter system !!!

For whom and for what? It's an ill-educated statement to make as it means nothing,