Originally posted by XxSweetFacadexX
balintawak started in cebu as a fighting/self-defense form... most say that it's named after a street in cebu... that's about all i know about it.
i know there's a book out there completely explains balintawak...
::makes note to find the book again:::lookie:
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SF,
I apologize, like I said I have trained with Manong Ted Buot in Balintawak since 1998. Yes, you are correct in the fact that the club was on Balintawak Street. I have some history and information. I like to hear more always. Which is why I asked the questions of you for your instructor.
I did this on for may reasons. I wanted you to feel comfortable and free to post here and to answer questions. As a Moderator it is our responsibility to encourage our members and our new members even more. I also asked the questions because I am honestly interested in hearing what your instructor has to say.
And I am really curious about Balintwak and all of our Family and I like to understand and learn from everyone.
Please extend my respects to your insturctor, as well as to yourself.
Thank You and I am waiting very patiently for you to reply after Sunday.
Originally posted by pesilat
Yup. "Balintawak" either means "cry of freedom" or it was a battle cry used by freedom fighters (never was real clear on which was the case). After splitting from Saavedra's group (not sure what prompted the split), GM Bacon started teaching in the yard behind a watch shop owned by a friend of his. The watch shop was on "Balintawak Street" and Bacon thought it a fitting name.
Mike
Mike,
Balintwak has many meanings. It is a Province, I believe on Luzon. It was a place of great atrocities during the Japanese Invasion during World War II. Just Like Baaton was a place of great pride for the PI Nationals stood their ground against the Japanese.
Now during the war, it was a Freedon Cry and was also used in battle, to represent the great courage and strength of those that had died in that great battle.
After the war, the name of Balintwak was used on many streets, just like most cities, in the USA, have a Martin Luther King street.
The club was in the Back Room of a Watch Repair Shop on Balintwak Street. The Club's Names was "The Self-Defense Club". It became known as "The Self Defense Club on Balintawk Street". As people would talk they would refer to it as "that Club on Balintawak Street". Then some people started saying "oh you do that Balintawak Street Self Defense" Then it became know as "Balintawak". As Many Cultures do, the shorten things for simplicity in dealing with names. This is why I find it difficult to believe that some think that Balintawak as the name of an art was around before WWII. The techniques and moves and timing were all their, as evidence by GM Bacon and the Saavedra's before the War. The Saavedra's taught Stick and Dagger. Anciong Bacon was asked/told no to use his training dagger during his training since he would constantly poke people with it. Some would say the Stick only expression would be Anciong Bacon's personal expresion of the Saavadra's Art. I still think it is good to give credit to the Saavedra's for their contribution to the FMA's. :asian:
As to GM Anciong Bacon leaving the Doces Pares after WWII. He left for personal reasons and simple politics between himself and the Canetes. Both Anciong Bacong and Ted Buot were and are good friends with the Canetes. Any and all "Hard Feelings" were imagined from their students or their students' students.
Like I said before, Good information everyone. I am just looking to meet new people and to also maybe even learn more. Thank you all very much for this conversation.
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i'm curious too...
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