A Question of Morality... 01

MA-Caver

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Reading Saturday's paper (today) I saw an interesting tid-bit about an actress who was uncomfortable with her father seeing her next movie.
Unfortunately I'm unable to find the "on-line" version of the article but will type it out verbatium here then pose my question/comments. The article is about Neve Campbell actress best known for the Scream trilogy of films.
Neve Campbell is refusing to attend a screening of her new movie "When Will I be Loved" in Toronto because she doesn't want to sit with her father during her nude scenes. The movie, in which she plays a woman offered cash to have sex with a man, will be screened at this month's Toronto Film Festival, and Campbell has decided to bow out so she doesn't have to be with her dad during the film's raunchy scenes. Campbell says, "It was difficult because I had to decide whether I was going to invite my father. But I've talked to him about it and what I've decided is that he can come but I won't be there, 'cause I can't sit next to him and watch the love scenes. And I'm naked in the movie and the whole nine yards."
Now wait a second. Here is an actress who is afraid to watch a movie with her father because she's NUDE in it? Never mind what she's doing IN the movie just from her comments she's embarrassed that her dad is going to see her that way. Now this is from an actress who's done a threesome scene (nude ... and the whole nine-yards) with :fanboy: Denise Richards and Matt Dillion in the movie "Wild Things".
Her newest movie will be seen by millions of people, more if the movie is a hit. A couple million will probably own the DVD/VHS... one of them is likely to be her own father because if he's a proud parent of a famous actress the chances are good.
Now, if she isn't scared to bare all and get down and dirty on the screen in front of those aforementioned millions... why should her father be any different? Especially since he probably has more initmate knowledge of the girl (changing her diapers as a baby) than any one of her fans.
Am thinking, if just the thought of her daddy seeing her that way makes her uncomfortable then why do it at all? For the money? Where is this actress' priorities?
Don't get me wrong I like this actress and think she does well in her roles but this one little quirk just made me go :idunno: "HUH?" It just struck me as odd reading that and made me ponder.
 

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I'm wondering if you would want your father watching you perform you daily labor? Certianly, if you had to do in the nude, the effect would be magnified.

On the other side of the coin ... If I were makin as much cash ... hell, I'll do just about anything.
 
*shrugs* I suppose it's the same reason that some homosexual people will gladly join gay pride rallies, but are skiddish about letting their parents or close friends find out (note: please don't take this as any form of gay-bashing). Personal actions and choices, especially those involving one's sexuality, are oftentimes much easier to display under anonymity (in this case, the millions of fans are pretty faceless-and in that sense anonymous-to her) then with someone that you have any type of relationship with and therefore care about. I guess a person is just more vulnerable to criticism when it involves someone they care about. And that's about as Freudian as I'm gonna get.

I have to wonder though, is she just as uncomfortable about viewing it with her mom or siblings, or is it only seeing it with her father that she has a qualm about?

So the movie title is "When Will I Be Loved?" Heh, I guess that scene answered that question. I got my movie picked out though. :inlove:
 
michaeledward said:
On the other side of the coin ... If I were makin as much cash ... hell, I'll do just about anything.
hell, if I got paid like that, I'd watch Mike do whatever it was he was doing.....
 
flatlander said:
hell, if I got paid like that, I'd watch Mike do whatever it was he was doing.....
LOL Dan!

MACaver...really is it so hard to believe? It's not like it's a porno flick where she's getting paid to complete the act. It's Hollywood - I'm assuming...so I don't blame her one bit. It's way too taboo to have your dad or any other male family member viewing you in that way. I really doubt too many dads would want to see their daughters in that way either.:asian:
 
For Petes sake, she makes movies hoping that everybody on Earth will want to watch them. If something embarrasses you in that context, dont do it.

Actors are a strange bunch anyway.....
 
Tgace said:
For Petes sake, she makes movies hoping that everybody on Earth will want to watch them. If something embarrasses you in that context, dont do it.

Actors are a strange bunch anyway.....
Agreed...I really could care less about whether she gets shy about the stuff as long as she and other actors STAY OUT OF POLITICS.

I have a hard time with 'Celebrity' being used as a platform for agenda. I think moreso, I have a problem with people who see these "professional liers" who get paid to pretend as having a more valid opinion on issues than those who deal with it, are in the profession (what ever it may be) or are making personal sacrifices for the cause.

I am not talking about activism (Literacy programs, Abuse shelters, Wildlife refuges...) but POLITICS, like celebrities getting camera time and criticizing policy, endorsing candidates.... any of it.

When you spend most of your time trapped on a set closed off from the world and then are 'off' for long stretches between how much of the 'wider world' of the rest of us do you really have a reasonable perspective on anyway?

Anyway...Neve Campbell....Denise Richards......

Sorry, lost track after coming down from the rant....
 
Obviously, most celebrities don't have anymore understanding of or authority over politics than any other average person, and the people who think they do are fools. However, celebrities are citizens as well, with their right to speak their minds.
 
RandomPhantom700 said:
Obviously, most celebrities don't have anymore understanding of or authority over politics than any other average person, and the people who think they do are fools. However, celebrities are citizens as well, with their right to speak their minds.
Agreed, but I am basically whining (yes it is whining because it will not change) about how much wider their 'speak their minds' comments seem to reach when they get access to events, camera time and abuse their star power to reach a wider audience than other citizens.

It has been done for as long as someone wanted to use the "man next to the man" tactic to gain popularity or recongition, I just don't like it.

Just like the rest of us (process specifics dependent on country and level of gov,...) vote, support the groups that are supporting your interests (political parties, lobby groups....) and vote your conscience....

The rest is razzle dazzle.
 
RandomPhantom700 said:
Obviously, most celebrities don't have anymore understanding of or authority over politics than any other average person, and the people who think they do are fools. However, celebrities are citizens as well, with their right to speak their minds.
True. What I dont like is when celebrities use their movies/concerts/shows etc. to promote their politics. I dont want to pay good $$ to have to listen to some actor/musicians political opinions. I give Springstein credit. He advertises some concerts as political events so you can choose to support it or not.
 
Well, celebrities are people and they have just as much right as any of us to express their view whether we want to hear it or not...the only problem is they have the influence to make their message widespread...people put celebrities in that position of power...and now we have to deal with it...
 
I agree that their using concerts as ad-hoc political rallies is quite irritating. Personally, I go to concerts to get away from the real world for a while, including deciding which rat will do the least damage in the White House.

I also get irritated, though, by the notions that celebrities, because of all the attention paid to them by the rest of us, thereby somehow have a responsibility not to discuss politics, or at least are being pretentious or something when they do. It's like saying "you're a celebrity, play that role and shut up about any other issues". My inclination (and it's not much substantiated as of now) is that most such accusations come from the fairly conservative camp who simply don't want liberal views being expressed on a large scale. Again, my own stipulation.
 
I can understand it - I am generally pretty horrifically embarassed to have anyone looking at me, dressed - I couldn't hack a nude scene at all. If I did, for some reason, it would be much easier to have 1,000 nameless strangers watch it than ONE person I knew. If it were my dad - I might spontaneously combust in shame.
 
To me, the real moral question revolves around the justification of the public's right to be sure that a girl has to sit in a movie theater, next to her dad, while they watch her getting laid. Or at least to tut-tut about her not wanting to.

Seriously, folks, think about it: you're describing a public that wants to watch somebody sitting with her father, watching a movie of her having sex.

Now that's kinda foul. Double voyeurism? They just like to watch her watching?
 
Yeah, thats a good point.

It just seems to me that actors spend most of their early careers trying to do almost anything to gain attention, then spend the rest complaining that they have no privacy.
 
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