In jow gars defence there. people overcook the humble nonsense.
And start taking pride in being humble.
Yeah, some do. But not us. We're all full of real pie.
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In jow gars defence there. people overcook the humble nonsense.
And start taking pride in being humble.
We are full of something, Buka. I'll give you that much.Yeah, some do. But not us. We're all full of real pie.
For me there's no need for me to specifically know who is better than me or not. I just need to know that they are out there. That person may show their skill set right away or that person may choose to only show the same level of skill of their opponent. If I keep this mindset then, I keep in my mind that it's possible that the person in front of me or teaching me may be better than what they let on.You don't know? You should get out more, maybe?
I don't like TKD and I really don't like Wing Chun, but me learning about them isn't about "what I like" It's about "what I can learn" or "what I can experience" and then taking that experience to help me be better at what I do like. Based on my post in Martial Talk, one would think that I actually like those two systems. I don't have to like Wing Chun or TKD for them to provide value to what I do.I don't think you really mean you may not like that, it is the single most, absolutely awesome thing about the Martial Arts world.
This isn't contradictory to previous statements. If you were starving on the streets and someone gave you a meal that you didn't like. You would still eat that food because you recognize the value in it. You don't have to discard what you like. The concept of the Better Martial Art isn't universal, it's individual, and the reason it's usually better, is because it's what's better for you as an individual, it meets your goals and requirements.Which is kind of contradictory to previous statements.
Guess as in having an idea about how something may work or may not work (a guess) and then exploring or asking if your guess or assumptions are correct. After a person reaches a certain advance level within their own martial art system, that person should have enough knowledge to get a feel for how techniques can be realistically used, then they take that initial guess and explore to see if they were correct in their thinking and if not then why were they wrong.Guessing? In what way?
To me what he did wasn't wrong. Why he did it is where the problem lies. For me that same situation would have played out as. I learn what is being taught, then I get the idea that I might be able to do it with another technique (a guess) then I try it to see if I'm right. If it doesn't work then I have a better understanding of why the instructor taught the specific knife defense technique and I gain better knowledge of my own technique and the limitations. So now I would have a better understanding of when I should and shouldn't use that overhead block. In my mind it's not about ego (that I know a better way) It's about me thinking that I may know something else that may work and the only way to know for sure is to try it out and learn from the outcome.Rather than performing the exercise as described, my training (and my ego) wanted to use my own skillset, poor though that might be. I tried an overhead block, which would be a standard defense against an incoming overhand, cross, or looping punch; the idea being to isolate the arm, step in, and destroy the center.
This where Bill and I may differ. I learn by failing everyday at something, just as much as I learn by doing things right the first time. With kung fu, if a person doesn't have a long list of failures then they aren't training outside of their comfort zone, and they aren't taking the necessary risks required to learn how to apply the techniques that they are learning.I learned by failing, hopefully I can avoid that in the future.
Not to brag or nuthin, but I've never seen nobody so humble as me.Given the way the word "humble" is being misused in this thread, there's a shocking lack of "humility".
This is where the other instructor is with his teaching and fighting ability. Thinking that there are people who are better than me is one thing, thinking that I'm not as good is something totally different. For me I started thinking I was good when I began to see and understand how the pieces of fighting fit together. I had to eat a few punches to get there but everything made sense once that "light bulb" click on. It was like learning how a machine works and knowing enough where you can customize it to operate the way you want it to work.I think the problem may be that some people, like me, confuse being humble with not giving themselves enough credit. This has caused me many problems, the worst of which is me not being sure of myself. For example, under my previous Sifu, I felt like I was ages away from being able to teach effectively. That was a combination of me being humble, and him being...well, not so great. Now, under my current Sifu, he tells me, "You have the skill to teach. Don't ever doubt your own ability."
The thing is, that's something that *I* have to learn to do, and it does not come naturally to me (the not doubting part). No amount of other people telling me I am good will convince me; I need to know it in my own mind/heart/soul.
I'm not saying that this confusion is what happened to Bill, but his post made me think of it.
lol.. I got that covered see.Given the way the word "humble" is being misused in this thread, there's a shocking lack of "humility".
I don't know what humble is.
The first rule of Humble Club....There seems to be a lot of bragging and complaining about humility in this thread. Luckily, I know the secret. The truly humble would just ignore the thread and let everyone else have their humility pissing contests.
Rats...I responded...Guess I'm not humble enough.
Well, if we're gonna go down this road...Many martial artists are like "hey everybody! Look how humble I am! I am more humble than you and you and you and you over there! Get on my humble level scrubs!"
didn't they use this song to torture prisoners? I'm pretty sure they did. lol.Well, if we're gonna go down this road...
This was also my biggest transition. I had taken other Martial before I started studying FMA and WC at the same school. A striking art that largely uses deflections vs blocks? That was knew to me. Then the idea of having to widen footwork and account for the additional paths a knife, stick or sword can follow by using the wrist as an additional pivot point? It was eye opening, and fun.That's correct, Tony. I also learned a lot from you when we worked together. Remember I have zero background in grappling or any kind of knife skills.
One of my more humbling moments was when we were working on a 3 count knife drill. Rather than performing the exercise as described, my training (and my ego) wanted to use my own skillset, poor though that might be. I tried an overhead block, which would be a standard defense against an incoming overhand, cross, or looping punch; the idea being to isolate the arm, step in, and destroy the center. The problem is that my skillset doesn't really apply. A person throwing a punch is not going to simply turn his strike into a slashing motion, escaping the block. But with a knife? Pish, different story entirely, and I'd quickly have my entrails as my extrails, as I was shown.
I found the same effect when I tried to lock an incoming 'punch' under my armpit to apply an armbar with the other arm. Again, a fist trapped in my armpit is not going to hurt me; a knife in my armpit is kind of a bad thing.
Where my skills applied was in defending against an incoming kick; the defense against a mawashigeri is something I'm well-equipped to deal with and didn't find it a challenge, although it was interesting to defend against kicks developed in a different style, such as muay thai. The kicker's base was different, so his legs were not where I expected them to be once I isolated the kicking leg, but they were not expecting me to lift as high as I did, so they were overbalanced anyway.
However, the majority of the seminar I was entirely out of my element, a fish out of water, and once I twigged to the fact that my so-called skills were of nearly no use there, I was able to adopt a learner's attitude and I can only hope that others realized how grateful I was for the lessons.
I think the problem may be that some people, like me, confuse being humble with not giving themselves enough credit. This has caused me many problems, the worst of which is me not being sure of myself. For example, under my previous Sifu, I felt like I was ages away from being able to teach effectively. That was a combination of me being humble, and him being...well, not so great. Now, under my current Sifu, he tells me, "You have the skill to teach. Don't ever doubt your own ability."
The thing is, that's something that *I* have to learn to do, and it does not come naturally to me (the not doubting part). No amount of other people telling me I am good will convince me; I need to know it in my own mind/heart/soul.
I'm not saying that this confusion is what happened to Bill, but his post made me think of it.
Stepping away from the "oh lord it's hard to be humble" jokes for a minute ...One of my more humbling moments was when we were working on a 3 count knife drill. Rather than performing the exercise as described, my training (and my ego) wanted to use my own skillset, poor though that might be. I tried an overhead block, which would be a standard defense against an incoming overhand, cross, or looping punch; the idea being to isolate the arm, step in, and destroy the center. The problem is that my skillset doesn't really apply. A person throwing a punch is not going to simply turn his strike into a slashing motion, escaping the block. But with a knife? Pish, different story entirely, and I'd quickly have my entrails as my extrails, as I was shown.
I found the same effect when I tried to lock an incoming 'punch' under my armpit to apply an armbar with the other arm. Again, a fist trapped in my armpit is not going to hurt me; a knife in my armpit is kind of a bad thing.
Your first four words in the quoted part are something that gets overlooked a lot. We, as instructors, need to keep training in order to keep our skill levels up. I'm considered a Master Instructor, but to me, that just means I'm a higher level student.Went to a seminar for a completely different set of martial arts skills and got schooled. My attitude was wrong going in, but my eyes were opened and I was able to humble myself enough to truly learn by the end.